February 2006 - Darwin-dev - lists.apple.com

8G1454 Sources
by Rob Braun 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.4.1i I'd like to thank those at Apple who worked to get the 10.4.5 ppc and x86 sources posted. I know it's a thankless job, and particularly frustrating when everyone was clammoring over whether or not they would be posted, but being unable to respond. I fully expect no response to this question for the same reason no response was given to questions over the x86 sources, but I'll give it a shot anyway. Can we expect xnu source for x86 at all? Perhaps a few drivers, making it possible to create a darwin release for x86 corresponding to the currently shipping Mac OS X product? Thanks, Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: intel source code release
by Dave Schroeder 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: Peter O'Gorman wrote: I see today a much more populated source tree for x86. - Dave _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I was amazed to find that the gas sources had been split out of cctools, so they could be provided in accordance with the GPL, but no other part of cctools was made available. So I never did get an answer to my question. Thank you to everyone responsible. Indeed, I also would like to pass along my thanks, since I was one of the people to comment on this with my concern before. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: intel source code release
by Peter O'Gorman 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) Peter O'Gorman wrote: I see today a much more populated source tree for x86. Thank you to everyone responsible. Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I was amazed to find that the gas sources had been split out of cctools, so they could be provided in accordance with the GPL, but no other part of cctools was made available. So I never did get an answer to my question. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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library formats
by Ross Boylan 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: University of California San Francisco--Biostatistics Can anyone summarize, or direct me to a summary, of the requirements for mixing and matching different library and object formats? In particular, I have an R package (a module for a statistics system) that includes C code in the LAM library. LAM was present only as .a and .la files, not .dylib. The R module included a .so file, which I think is a "bundle". The LAM code seems to be inside the .so file (otool shows no external links to lam, and does show symbols and code inside the .so file). And it all seemed to work. I am used to dynamically loaded code requiring special options at compile and link time, and would expect static (.a) libraries not to work in this scenario. The docs I've seen mention no such restriction for Darwin, though I've seen some references to PIC (compile time) helping performance. One non-apple site said the common option was necessary. Basically, I'm wondering what combinations of compile and link formats are possible, and which are recommended. Thanks. -- Ross Boylan wk: (415) 514-8146 185 Berry St #5700 ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu Dept of Epidemiology and Biostatistics fax: (415) 514-8150 University of California, San Francisco San Francisco, CA 94107-1739 hm: (415) 550-1062 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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ranlib vs. libtool -static
by haller＠ableton.com 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: Ableton User-agent: MacSOUP/2.7 (Mac OS X version 10.4.5) [ I posted this on the xcode list a couple of days ago, but got no replies. I thought maybe somebody here might know. ] The ranlib/libtool manpage says I should prefer libtool -static over ranlib. Is there any technical reason for this? Both seem to work fine, but libtool -static gives a warning about .o files that have no symbols, which is annoying when you have a zero-warnings policy. Ranlib doesn't give this warning, so I'm leaning towards using that despite what the manpage says. -- Stefan Haller Ableton http://www.ableton.com/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Darwin 8.5 available?
by Peter Lovell 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com THanks.....Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I see that the sources for darwin 8.5 (equivalent to Mac OS X 10.4.5) are available from opendarwin but I haven't seen a "release notice" yet. It does seem that this is not quite complete, as the plist isn't there yet. Does anyone know if the release is actually "set" or is it perhaps still in progress? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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ipcs as a non root user
by Sébastien Maret 20 Feb '06

20 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com smaret% ipcs -pm Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CPID LPID while the same command as root (sudo) gives: smaret% sudo ipcs -pm Password: Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CPID LPID m 131071 0 --rw------- smaret smaret 490 492 Sébastien _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… The ipcs command seems works only when it is run as root. For example, the command 'ipcs -pm' displays, as a normal user: Is there a way to display shared memory segments as a normal user (without sudo) ? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: dyld sources for darwin 8.4
by Garth Cummings 20 Feb '06

20 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: dyld sources for darwin 8.4
by Markus Hitter 20 Feb '06

20 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Am 20.02.2006 um 17:38 schrieb Ariel Burton: It looks like the sources available from, e.g., http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4.4.ppc/ do not correspond to the binary released by Apple. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Some of the public sources Apple releases are a subset of what they use internally, only. You're probably on your own. If you tell us what you want to achieve with those sources, somebody might have helpful hints anyways. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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dyld sources for darwin 8.4
by Ariel Burton 20 Feb '06

20 Feb '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Hi, Does anyone know where the sources for the dyld released with Darwin 8.4 are to be found? It looks like the sources available from, e.g., http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4.4.ppc/ do not correspond to the binary released by Apple. sw_vers reports the following: ProductName: Mac OS X Server ProductVersion: 10.4 BuildVersion: 8A428 Many thanks, Ariel _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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