August 2006 - Darwin-dev - lists.apple.com

Re: Apple Opens Up: Kernel, Mac OS Forge, iCal Server, Bonjour, Launchd
by Will Barton 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Ernest Prabhakar wrote: B. New "Mac OS Forge" for Community Projects -Will _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Mac OS Forge, a new community site hosted by Apple, is being created to support WebKit and other open source projects focused on Mac OS X, especially those looking to transition from OpenDarwin.org. <http://www.macosforge.org/> I have a couple of questions as to the nature of Mac OS Forge. It's unclear exactly what the relationship of Mac OS Forge is to Apple from the website or this announcement. It is also unclear as to how the mentioned "other open source projects" (presumably, external to Apple) would go about being hosted at Mac OS Forge, if they desired. The second question really goes back to the first in a few ways, namely whether an open source project would have to meet some kind of standard of a focus on Mac OS X, and whether that judgement is made within Apple, by members of the community that Mac OS Forge hopes to attract, or some other process altogether, and what degree of transparency can be expected. Transparency is pretty important in building a healthy community, in my very humble opinion. I recognize that Mac OS Forge is new, and there are probably a lot of related issues that need ironing out, but the website is just a little bit vague on actual details. I do apologize ahead of time if all this information is to be made clear in the near future. As to the rest of the announcements, xnu is definitely welcomed, as is the Apache licensing of Bonjour and Launchd! PGP.sig

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Re: Apple Opens Up: Kernel, Mac OS Forge, iCal Server, Bonjour, Launchd
by Ted Thibodeau Jr 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com * Markus Hitter [2006/08/08 10:16 AM +0200] wrote: > Am 08.08.2006 um 01:45 schrieb Ted Thibodeau Jr: > >>> A. Intel Kernel Sources >> >> Thank you for silencing the paranoid with #A, > > As far as I can see, the reasons for closing OpenDarwin are > still valid; this is just another move in the game Apple > plays with open source. OpenDarwin <> Apple. Apple <> OpenDarwin. To what game are you referring? > A valueable move though; now open source OS's can pick up iCal > Server as well. Ahah! Now I see the conspiracy! Apple break open source by subverting from within! No... wait... Please, can we take the FUD elsewhere? Be seeing you, Ted -- A: Yes. http://www.guckes.net/faq/attribution.html | Q: Are you sure? | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Ted Thibodeau, Jr. // voice +1-781-273-0900 x32 Evangelism & Support // mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com OpenLink Software, Inc. // http://www.openlinksw.com/ http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/uda/ OpenLink Blogs http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/virtuoso/ http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ Universal Data Access and Virtual Database Technology Providers _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by almisr 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com :D someone here knows (except the insinders) xnu tree ? nor open the makefiles before posting ... Best Regards _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Apple Opens Up: Kernel, Mac OS Forge, iCal Server, Bonjour, Launchd
by Markus Hitter 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Am 08.08.2006 um 01:45 schrieb Ted Thibodeau Jr: Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… A. Intel Kernel Sources Thank you for silencing the paranoid with #A, As far as I can see, the reasons for closing OpenDarwin are still valid; this is just another move in the game Apple plays with open source. A valueable move though; now open source OS's can pick up iCal Server as well. Looking at iCal Server's timeline, I can see a bunch of small source and other edits, so the public following Apple's changes more closely might be the name of the game this time. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Apple Opens Up: Kernel, Mac OS Forge, iCal Server, Bonjour, Launchd
by Chad Leigh 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Dave Schroeder wrote: On Aug 7, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Mark F. Murphy wrote: A. Intel Kernel Sources One, first initial T, last name Yager. Chad _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… At 4:15 PM -0700 8/7/06, Ernest Prabhakar wrote: In conjunction with this week's Developer Conference, we have four great pieces of news for Open Source developers: As of today, we are posting buildable kernel sources for Intel- based Macs alongside the usual PowerPC (and other Intel) sources, starting with Mac OS X 10.4.7. We regret the delay in readying the new kernel for release, and thank you for your patience. How many pundits need to do some writing this week and has the price of crow increased due to demand? (Of course, I've no doubt some of these people will think their articles "made" Apple release the source.) <http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/ apples_os_x_x86.html> He seems to have and gracefully. He also disclaims having had any influence. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by Kevin Van Vechten 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Eric Albert wrote: Hope this helps, Eric Thanks, - Kevin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Sounds like you need to install the latest version of the developer tools. Xcode 2.4 was released today: <http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/> Yes. Build instructions have been summarized at <http:// kernel.macosforge.org/intel-build-instructions.html>. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by Steve Checkoway 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Robert Gordon wrote: I was able to login and download the image without any problems. It's the first item on the "whats new list" Ah. I should have read xcode-users first: I guess I get to wait for some period of time... -- Steve Checkoway _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Chris Espinosa wrote: Xcode 2.4, an update to the Xcode 2 IDE, is announced today and available on connect.apple.com (Access will vary by developer type and geography today as we push the content around the world). This is a public release and it can be discussed freely on xcode-users. smime.p7s

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by Robert Gordon 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Steve Checkoway wrote: On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Eric Albert wrote: -- Steve Checkoway I was able to login and download the image without any problems. It's the first item on the "whats new list" Sounds like you need to install the latest version of the developer tools. Xcode 2.4 was released today: <http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/> I don't know about others, but I cannot download it as it doesn't even appear in the list of "What's new" nor the list of "Development tools." -- Robert.. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by Steve Checkoway 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Eric Albert wrote: -- Steve Checkoway _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Sounds like you need to install the latest version of the developer tools. Xcode 2.4 was released today: <http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/> I don't know about others, but I cannot download it as it doesn't even appear in the list of "What's new" nor the list of "Development tools." smime.p7s

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Re: build of xnu-792.10.96
by Eric Albert 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Robert Gordon wrote: Tried to build and hit this; # gcc_select Current default compiler: gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5250) -- Hope this helps, Eric _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… cc -E -MD -static -D__ASSEMBLER__ -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch i386 -Di386 -DI386 -D__I386__ -DPAGE_SIZE_FIXED -DAPPLE -DNeXT -DKERNEL -DKERNEL_PRIVATE -DXNU_KERNEL_PRIVATE -DPRIVATE -D__MACHO__=1 - Dvolatile=__volatile -DMACH -DMACH_KERNEL -DMACH_LOAD -DUPL_DEBUG - DEVENTMETER -DPC_SUPPORT -DUXPR -DEVENT -DMACH_BSD -DIOKIT - DMACH_PE -DDDB -DPAE -DX86_64 -DAT386=1 -DASSEMBLER -I. -I/Volumes/ export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/osfmk -I/Volumes/export/proj/ Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/EXPORT_HDRS/osfmk -I/Volumes/export/ proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/EXPORT_HDRS/bsd -I/Volumes/ export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/EXPORT_HDRS/iokit -I/ Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/EXPORT_HDRS/ pexpert -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/ EXPORT_HDRS/libkern -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/ BUILD/obj/EXPORT_HDRS/libsa -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/ xnu-792.10.96/BUILD/obj/EXTERN_HDRS -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/ xnu-792.10.96/EXTERNAL_HEADERS -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/ xnu-792.10.96/EXTERNAL_HEADERS/bsd -I/Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/ xnu-792.10.96/osfmk/libsa /Volumes/export/proj/Darwin/xnu-792.10.96/ osfmk/i386/idt.s > idt.pp; sed '/^#/d' idt.pp > idt.s; cc -static -D__ASSEMBLER__ -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch i386 -Di386 -DI386 -D__I386__ -DPAGE_SIZE_FIXED -DAPPLE -DNeXT -DKERNEL - DKERNEL_PRIVATE -DXNU_KERNEL_PRIVATE -DPRIVATE -D__MACHO__=1 - Dvolatile=__volatile -DMACH -DMACH_KERNEL -DMACH_LOAD -DUPL_DEBUG - DEVENTMETER -DPC_SUPPORT -DUXPR -DEVENT -DMACH_BSD -DIOKIT - DMACH_PE -DDDB -DPAE -DX86_64 -DAT386=1 -c idt.s; /bin/rm -f idt.pp idt.s idt.s:450:bad register name ('%dr7') make[6]: *** [idt.o] Error 1 make[5]: *** [build_all] Error 2 make[4]: *** [do_all] Error 2 make[3]: *** [build_all] Error 2 make[2]: *** [build_all] Error 2 make[1]: *** [build_all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 any hints ? Sounds like you need to install the latest version of the developer tools. Xcode 2.4 was released today: <http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/> This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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