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checking library to see if is universal?
by Andre-John Mas 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Andre _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Could someone remind me what the command is to see whether a library is universal? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Linker error
by Norm Green 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

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Re: How does 'Finder' open an application and bring the window to the front?
by Andre-John Mas 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 20-Dec-07, at 09:19 , Andre-John Mas wrote: On 20-Dec-07, at 03:03 , Calvin Liu wrote: Hi, Terry, Thanks for the feedback. /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -ProfileManager Andre _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Actually I'm working on a Firefox addon which provide user the feature to switch among existing profiles. So I can use a Firefox method to start another independent Firefox process. But the new Firefox is always behind the previous one. I got the idea to use "open" from mozilla community, so I did some trick like this: 1. write a shell script to start Firefox in a new process 2. create a fake.app folder which contains necessary folder structure/files to make it looks like an application to "open" 3. write another shell script to "open" this fake.app 4. call the 2nd script from my addon. It works but seems not to be a "beautiful" solution. So I'm wondering if there's any other way to solve it. If you have any idea about that, could you please let me know? Thanks a lot! Firefox already had the ability to switch between profiles, though on the Mac you will have to go through the command line: There may be a way of using Applescript. Should have checked what I suggested first. Yup it does open behind the terminal Window. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How does 'Finder' open an application and bring the window to the front?
by Andre-John Mas 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 20-Dec-07, at 03:03 , Calvin Liu wrote: Hi, Terry, Thanks for the feedback. /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -ProfileManager There may be a way of using Applescript. Andre _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Actually I'm working on a Firefox addon which provide user the feature to switch among existing profiles. So I can use a Firefox method to start another independent Firefox process. But the new Firefox is always behind the previous one. I got the idea to use "open" from mozilla community, so I did some trick like this: 1. write a shell script to start Firefox in a new process 2. create a fake.app folder which contains necessary folder structure/files to make it looks like an application to "open" 3. write another shell script to "open" this fake.app 4. call the 2nd script from my addon. It works but seems not to be a "beautiful" solution. So I'm wondering if there's any other way to solve it. If you have any idea about that, could you please let me know? Thanks a lot! Firefox already had the ability to switch between profiles, though on the Mac you will have to go through the command line: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How does 'Finder' open an application and bring the window to the front?
by Terry Lambert 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com -- Terry Hi, Terry, Thanks for the feedback. Sincerely yours, Calvin Hi, there, -- Terry _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… You would probably need to create a C or C++ language binding to the Launch Services framework to be able to do it "beautiful". I don't know how interested in that you would be. On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Calvin Liu wrote: Actually I'm working on a Firefox addon which provide user the feature to switch among existing profiles. So I can use a Firefox method to start another independent Firefox process. But the new Firefox is always behind the previous one. I got the idea to use "open" from mozilla community, so I did some trick like this: 1. write a shell script to start Firefox in a new process 2. create a fake.app folder which contains necessary folder structure/files to make it looks like an application to "open" 3. write another shell script to "open" this fake.app 4. call the 2nd script from my addon. It works but seems not to be a "beautiful" solution. So I'm wondering if there's any other way to solve it. If you have any idea about that, could you please let me know? Thanks a lot! Terry Lambert wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Calvin Liu wrote: On Mac, if I run a command in terminal and start a GUI application, the new window is always hide behind the current window. So does start apps from other application like firefox. But noticed that double click an icon in "Finder" can start it correctly. So I did some test and found that if I wrap the command into a fake ".app" folder and use "open -a fake.app", it'll show the new window in the front. It's not good solution and I'm sure I haven't got the root reason. I suppose there is an option in the configuration file of window manager for MacOS to control this behavior. Am I right? Anyone has any idea on what that option is and how to change it? I'm going mad with this problem. It is an effect of using LaunchServices, rather than vanilla fork/ exec or posix_spawn to start the process. If you want this behaviour, use LaunchServices (which is what the command line tool "open" does). This will have the side effect of running the correct slice of the application, for example if you checked the "Run under Rosetta" checkbox in finder for Safari to ensure you will be able to continue to use your PPC plugins on an Intel machine. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Java JNI
by Thorsten Knieling 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

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[?? Probable Spam] Re: Java JNI
by Rustam Muginov 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

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Java JNI
by Thorsten Knieling 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

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Re: How does 'Finder' open an application and bring the window to the front?
by Calvin Liu 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Hi, Terry, Thanks for the feedback. Sincerely yours, Calvin Hi, there, -- Terry _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Actually I'm working on a Firefox addon which provide user the feature to switch among existing profiles. So I can use a Firefox method to start another independent Firefox process. But the new Firefox is always behind the previous one. I got the idea to use "open" from mozilla community, so I did some trick like this: 1. write a shell script to start Firefox in a new process 2. create a fake.app folder which contains necessary folder structure/files to make it looks like an application to "open" 3. write another shell script to "open" this fake.app 4. call the 2nd script from my addon. It works but seems not to be a "beautiful" solution. So I'm wondering if there's any other way to solve it. If you have any idea about that, could you please let me know? Thanks a lot! Terry Lambert wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Calvin Liu wrote: On Mac, if I run a command in terminal and start a GUI application, the new window is always hide behind the current window. So does start apps from other application like firefox. But noticed that double click an icon in "Finder" can start it correctly. So I did some test and found that if I wrap the command into a fake ".app" folder and use "open -a fake.app", it'll show the new window in the front. It's not good solution and I'm sure I haven't got the root reason. I suppose there is an option in the configuration file of window manager for MacOS to control this behavior. Am I right? Anyone has any idea on what that option is and how to change it? I'm going mad with this problem. It is an effect of using LaunchServices, rather than vanilla fork/exec or posix_spawn to start the process. If you want this behaviour, use LaunchServices (which is what the command line tool "open" does). This will have the side effect of running the correct slice of the application, for example if you checked the "Run under Rosetta" checkbox in finder for Safari to ensure you will be able to continue to use your PPC plugins on an Intel machine. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: HowTo: catch a signal and get a CrashLog too (Leopard)
by Terry Lambert 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com There was an example of that on this list about 3 weeks back. -- Terry _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Dec 19, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Steve Checkoway wrote: On Dec 19, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Is there any way for a developer to find out crashes related to their software via Apple? It would be ideal if there was service that I could sign up to as a developer or if MacOS X could send the log to the the application developer, though I realise the latter might be considered a 'security risk'. I sort of doubt it. It's probably easiest to write your own crash handler (or modify a free one, such as the one I helped write) and handle user crashes with backtracing yourself. That way you can also include other information that is useful for tracking down bugs. Easiest way we found was to catch the signal, open a pipe, fork a new process, reexec with a special argument so it knows to run the crash handler code, and write(2) the data to the child process. Then the child process can do things like look up symbols, make up a nice crash report and then inform the user who then has the choice to send it to you or not. For leopard, you catch the Mach exception rather than installing a signal handler, and after you are done doing your private crash reporting stuff, you forward the exception on, it generates a signal, the process crashes, and CrashReporter grabs it from there, just like normally. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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