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IOATABlockStorage panic
by Andy Taylor 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

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Re: IOATABlockStorage driver?
by William Siegrist 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/darwinbuild-dev/2008-May/000419.html -Bill On Aug 23, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Andy Taylor wrote: It seems this issue came up a few years ago as well: http://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-dev/2005/Jan/msg00061.html _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com No, the source for IOATABlockStorage is not available, however a pre- built binary root is. See also: Is the IOATABlockStorage driver open source? The other ATA drivers are posted on www.opensource.apple.com, but not that. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/wsiegrist %40apple.com This email sent to wsiegrist(a)apple.com smime.p7s

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Re: AppleIRController raw events
by Thane Norton III 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Shayne Wissler wrote: By "limit" I mean that they are reducing the information content that's naturally physically there. The user is in reality pressing down at a given time and up at a given time, but the program gets a distorted version of this interaction which therefore limits the kinds of things you can do with the remote. Shayne Wissler On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas <devlists(a)shadowlab.org> wrote: Le 25 août 08 à 22:37, Shayne Wissler a écrit : Shayne Wissler On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas <devlists(a)shadowlab.org> wrote: Le 24 août 08 à 20:53, Shayne Wissler a écrit : Hello, Here are the interface values I am using: page=1 cookie=14 usage=86 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemAppMenu page=1 cookie=15 usage=89 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenu page=1 cookie=16 usage=8a kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuRight page=1 cookie=17 usage=8b kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuLeft page=1 cookie=1d usage=8c kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuUp page=1 cookie=1e usage=8d kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuDown You can get some additional events listening for "usage page" = kHIDPage_Consumer (the one you call 0x0c) and Usage = kHIDUsage_Csmr_FastForward and kHIDUsage_Csmr_Rewind. They will be triggered if you let the fast forward or fast backward button down during one or two seconds. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/devlists%40shadowlab.org This email sent to devlists(a)shadowlab.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/tnorton%40apple.com - Thane Norton tnorton(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I have not tried under darwin with the IR remote, but I would expect that if you use the APIs from TN2187 (http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2007/tn2187.html ) you can get the raw HID events before they are sent on to the system. This assumes a 10.5 requirement for whatever application you are writing. What do you mean by limit the API? I'm pretty sure iTunes and QuickTimes are using thoses events to implements fast forward/backward functions. Indeed, I do it too in a video player I wrote and it works pretty well. I'm able to start a fast forward if the user lets the fast forward button pressed and to stop it when it releases it. Thank you for the tip, I will try that as a last resort, but using the raw button press/release events would make a higher quality result. Are those just not available? If not, do you have any idea on why Apple would limit the API in that way? I have an application that uses the Apple remote that is not working optimally in my situation because of the filtering of events Apple seems to do before passing the events along. I would prefer to get the raw button press/release events with no filtering but haven't been able to find out how to do it. I am using IOHIDDeviceInterface122 and IOHIDQueueInterface and some related calls to obtain the events. I have attempted to use "page 0xc" of the IR interface but that didn't seem to do anything useful. As an example of the unwanted filtering: When I press/release "increase/decrease volume", I get the press/release events as they physically happened (my desired behavior); when I press "fast-forward/reverse", I only get a press event upon a physical release and only if I do it in a certain amount of time (which limits the usefulness of my application). In iTunes you can hold down "fast-forward" and it works as expected, so it is getting more information than I'm able to get so far. Thanks for any help! This email sent to tnorton(a)apple.com smime.p7s

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Re: Stack trace recoding on Mac OS X Leopard ( 10.5 )
by Rohitash 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: Oracle Corporation User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) On Aug 22, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Rohitash wrote: Cheers, Ken Thanks for the suggestions . I will find sometime to evaluate those and I hope all of the above tools work on the x86_64 architecture running Mac OS X. Ken Thomases wrote: I was exploring of some interfaces in Mac OS X if present , which might help me get a call backtrace which I want to record for some specific internal exception conditions . If some kind of unwind library is already available for use , that would really help simplify my task . I am not sure if the BSD library backtrace() and friends should be able to help me walk through all the stack frames and provide me with the arguments , parameters and the translated PC ( to symbolic names ) at any point I want to get a trace the call stack. I was reading the man page of atos and it seemed like I can take some help from its source code.Also , there seems to be a call stack generated in "/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/" for any application level crashes, if I am not wronged in assuming.This makes me assume that the basic infrastructure already exists to dump the information , and maybe I should be on my way if I can use them for my purpose instead of writing it from scratch. The supported method is currently to use backtrace() and then call out to the atos utility. This doesn't provide arguments. The source for atos is not available, as far as I know. Several other Apple tools gather stack traces from processes (sample, Shark, dtrace, various Instruments, etc.) but they rely on frameworks which are private to Apple. The source for gdb is public. I'm told it's not pretty, but have never really looked for myself. -- Disclaimer : The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: AppleIRController raw events
by Shayne Wissler 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

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Re: AppleIRController raw events
by Jean-Daniel Dupas 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Le 25 août 08 à 22:37, Shayne Wissler a écrit : Thank you for the tip, I will try that as a last resort, but using the raw button press/release events would make a higher quality result. Are those just not available? If not, do you have any idea on why Apple would limit the API in that way? Shayne Wissler On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas <devlists(a)shadowlab.org> wrote: Le 24 août 08 à 20:53, Shayne Wissler a écrit : Hello, Here are the interface values I am using: page=1 cookie=14 usage=86 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemAppMenu page=1 cookie=15 usage=89 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenu page=1 cookie=16 usage=8a kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuRight page=1 cookie=17 usage=8b kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuLeft page=1 cookie=1d usage=8c kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuUp page=1 cookie=1e usage=8d kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuDown In iTunes you can hold down "fast-forward" and it works as expected, so it is getting more information than I'm able to get so far. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/devlists%40shadowlab.org This email sent to devlists(a)shadowlab.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… What do you mean by limit the API? I'm pretty sure iTunes and QuickTimes are using thoses events to implements fast forward/backward functions. Indeed, I do it too in a video player I wrote and it works pretty well. I'm able to start a fast forward if the user lets the fast forward button pressed and to stop it when it releases it. I have an application that uses the Apple remote that is not working optimally in my situation because of the filtering of events Apple seems to do before passing the events along. I would prefer to get the raw button press/release events with no filtering but haven't been able to find out how to do it. I am using IOHIDDeviceInterface122 and IOHIDQueueInterface and some related calls to obtain the events. I have attempted to use "page 0xc" of the IR interface but that didn't seem to do anything useful. As an example of the unwanted filtering: When I press/release "increase/decrease volume", I get the press/release events as they physically happened (my desired behavior); when I press "fast-forward/reverse", I only get a press event upon a physical release and only if I do it in a certain amount of time (which limits the usefulness of my application). Thanks for any help! You can get some additional events listening for "usage page" = kHIDPage_Consumer (the one you call 0x0c) and Usage = kHIDUsage_Csmr_FastForward and kHIDUsage_Csmr_Rewind. They will be triggered if you let the fast forward or fast backward button down during one or two seconds. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: AppleIRController raw events
by Shayne Wissler 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uLfg4pIKh77Fr7wLlV8HYAZsdJqCTF2N1ysBepMH6G4=; b=XqIq15XeIdcrzP661sTr2Rd/c75qGgfKcOG3DoCqQ9eDJcGYtTyiw60ijomJWoqkBh oA/etX7mQ6zh1zXZcWd9f2t1XjawzZ2mFqq12XUR2CaMoNdXLxvhdFatKbtqiJKgQXnt /0gyfxEyc41V+RXxWn/IML/G20W3mQLmQBfOc= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ud65C6o8nNlq53fCVjWz7ihkA9O06avQwwRD+FzeqWK9AGcUMd0z1+TDtfbXNv+jOz 5Z2W9dvBHO/Lbeyzxaffb6MF0RfkGF9HXfUi44AIDca5FiAUBO5/Y0V+rEgUx1bYwuDp muJwio/rtveBj/3hlorGpBDyZQkPqKLRRG5Zs= Thank you for the tip, I will try that as a last resort, but using the raw button press/release events would make a higher quality result. Are those just not available? If not, do you have any idea on why Apple would limit the API in that way? Shayne Wissler On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas <devlists(a)shadowlab.org> wrote: > > Le 24 août 08 à 20:53, Shayne Wissler a écrit : > >> Hello, >> >> I have an application that uses the Apple remote that is not working >> optimally in my situation because of the filtering of events Apple >> seems to do before passing the events along. I would prefer to get the >> raw button press/release events with no filtering but haven't been >> able to find out how to do it. >> >> Here are the interface values I am using: >> >> page=1 cookie=14 usage=86 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemAppMenu >> page=1 cookie=15 usage=89 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenu >> page=1 cookie=16 usage=8a kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuRight >> page=1 cookie=17 usage=8b kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuLeft >> page=1 cookie=1d usage=8c kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuUp >> page=1 cookie=1e usage=8d kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuDown >> >> I am using IOHIDDeviceInterface122 and IOHIDQueueInterface and some >> related calls to obtain the events. I have attempted to use "page 0xc" >> of the IR interface but that didn't seem to do anything useful. >> >> As an example of the unwanted filtering: When I press/release >> "increase/decrease volume", I get the press/release events as they >> physically happened (my desired behavior); when I press >> "fast-forward/reverse", I only get a press event upon a physical >> release and only if I do it in a certain amount of time (which limits >> the usefulness of my application). >> >> In iTunes you can hold down "fast-forward" and it works as expected, >> so it is getting more information than I'm able to get so far. >> >> Thanks for any help! > > You can get some additional events listening for "usage page" = > kHIDPage_Consumer (the one you call 0x0c) and Usage = > kHIDUsage_Csmr_FastForward and kHIDUsage_Csmr_Rewind. > They will be triggered if you let the fast forward or fast backward button > down during one or two seconds. > > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Command line build against 10.4u SDK
by Peter O'Gorman 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) Andrew White wrote: > When running gcc from the command line on 10.5 / Darwin 9, how do I tell > the system to pull libraries from the 10.4u SDK? > -isysroot See the man page for gcc, Apple's porting guide, etc. e.g. http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Porting/Conceptual/PortingUnix/com… Peter -- Peter O'Gorman http://pogma.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Command line build against 10.4u SDK
by Andrew White 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) -- Andrew White _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… When running gcc from the command line on 10.5 / Darwin 9, how do I tell the system to pull libraries from the 10.4u SDK? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: AppleIRController raw events
by Jean-Daniel Dupas 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Le 24 août 08 à 20:53, Shayne Wissler a écrit : Hello, I have an application that uses the Apple remote that is not working optimally in my situation because of the filtering of events Apple seems to do before passing the events along. I would prefer to get the raw button press/release events with no filtering but haven't been able to find out how to do it. Here are the interface values I am using: page=1 cookie=14 usage=86 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemAppMenu page=1 cookie=15 usage=89 kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenu page=1 cookie=16 usage=8a kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuRight page=1 cookie=17 usage=8b kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuLeft page=1 cookie=1d usage=8c kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuUp page=1 cookie=1e usage=8d kHIDUsage_GD_SystemMenuDown I am using IOHIDDeviceInterface122 and IOHIDQueueInterface and some related calls to obtain the events. I have attempted to use "page 0xc" of the IR interface but that didn't seem to do anything useful. As an example of the unwanted filtering: When I press/release "increase/decrease volume", I get the press/release events as they physically happened (my desired behavior); when I press "fast-forward/reverse", I only get a press event upon a physical release and only if I do it in a certain amount of time (which limits the usefulness of my application). In iTunes you can hold down "fast-forward" and it works as expected, so it is getting more information than I'm able to get so far. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Thanks for any help! You can get some additional events listening for "usage page" = kHIDPage_Consumer (the one you call 0x0c) and Usage = kHIDUsage_Csmr_FastForward and kHIDUsage_Csmr_Rewind. They will be triggered if you let the fast forward or fast backward button down during one or two seconds. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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