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by Sanford Selznick 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm building a package that contains meta packages. I'm also building a meta-package that contains other packages. Thanks, Sanford PS - I need compatibility with 10.2 and beyond. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… What should the ownership _and_ permissions be of the miscellaneous resource scripts that go into my .pkg? (e.g.: postflight, installcheck, etc.) What should the ownership _and_ permissions be of all items that go into a .mpkg? And while on the topic of metapackages, I have to copy the subpackages into the "Packages" folder of the metapackage manually, right? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther [update]
by Stephane Sudre 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther [update]
by Andy O'Meara 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 > >> I managed to isolate the issue to the fact that its related to the >> fact that >> one of the items my postflight moves has a resource fork. Sure >> enough, I >> read a bit and learn that cp on 10.3 doesn't do them (an is >> throwing the >> package exception that I'm seeing?). Fine, I say, I'll install >> CpMac to >> /tmp and use *that* to move my .bundle (that has the resource) to >> where it >> needs to go. Even more outrageously, when I now install it under 10.3 >> sometimes it errors out, and sometimes it's successful (my guess >> is that >> CpMac is erroring out in certain situations when the dest file already >> exists--I don't know what situations--its not documented). > > You should use ditto for copying files instead of cp because it > supports resource forks back to at least 10.2. > > Are you logging using echo in your postflight script so you can tell > what is going on? What does the installer log say? Ah, very good info--thanks! Sure enough, using that (with the --rsrc switch) keeps my resources in tact, yay. There never seems to be a shortage of misc utilities--I'm glad someone knows about them! The only remaining issue is that an installer exception occurs when the package gets run by a user with non-admin access (or so it seems). The package's target location is /tmp and I just put a single .txt file there (as a placeholder to prevent the 10.3 crash when you have no items to install). Meanwhile, preflight copies my items (in a folder alongside the package) to the user's library folder (using "$HOME"), so I don't see how the access level of the user running the package cause it to error out. Any ideas? Thanks! P.S. For your trouble, I sent you a free copy of our software (and you'll see your ditto at the bottom of preflight if you look!) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther [update]
by Rob Keniger 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 09/06/2005, at 16:56, Andy O'Meara wrote: -- rob.keniger ------ menumachine for adobe golive ------ build dynamic drop-down menus in seconds ------- http://www.menumachine.com ------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I managed to isolate the issue to the fact that its related to the fact that one of the items my postflight moves has a resource fork. Sure enough, I read a bit and learn that cp on 10.3 doesn't do them (an is throwing the package exception that I'm seeing?). Fine, I say, I'll install CpMac to /tmp and use *that* to move my .bundle (that has the resource) to where it needs to go. Even more outrageously, when I now install it under 10.3 sometimes it errors out, and sometimes it's successful (my guess is that CpMac is erroring out in certain situations when the dest file already exists--I don't know what situations--its not documented). You should use ditto for copying files instead of cp because it supports resource forks back to at least 10.2. Are you logging using echo in your postflight script so you can tell what is going on? What does the installer log say? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther [update]
by Andy O'Meara 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 A sad update... After yet another day lost on this insanity, I am giving up... I managed to isolate the issue to the fact that its related to the fact that one of the items my postflight moves has a resource fork. Sure enough, I read a bit and learn that cp on 10.3 doesn't do them (an is throwing the package exception that I'm seeing?). Fine, I say, I'll install CpMac to /tmp and use *that* to move my .bundle (that has the resource) to where it needs to go. Even more outrageously, when I now install it under 10.3 sometimes it errors out, and sometimes it's successful (my guess is that CpMac is erroring out in certain situations when the dest file already exists--I don't know what situations--its not documented). So, basically, after two days of zero productivity and no answers, it's time to ditch PackageMaker and go with a readme containing install instructions. It's a little disappointing that 10.3 can't suit a lowly developer like me who just wants to move a couple files around during an install, but here I are. More specifically, I wish I could understand why 10.3 wasn't patched so that it'd be on par with any installer made for 10.4. The whole reason I got in the crisis that I'm in now (where all my 10.3 users are sending me angry emails) is that I assumed a simple package that worked under 10.4 would work under 10.3. Sigh. ----- Hey guys.. Hopefully folks here can solve this one--I would have thought it would have been addressed by now, but I didn't get any hits from an archive search... So I have my shiny new package built by PackageMaker 2.0, and all is well tiger... So we launch the new version of our software this morning and emails from 10.3 users start pouring in about the installer erroring out. I don't have a 10.3 machine handy, so I has to go to some lengths to get access to one, and look at the console, and I see: 2005-06-08 13:20:41.371 Installer[657] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: Some files for ... may not have been written correctly. (code 1) 2005-06-08 13:24:53.585 Installer[692] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: Some files for ... may not have been written correctly. (code 1) The only thing semi-unusual about the installer is that the installed files are alongside the installer and are moved to user locations via the preflight script. Therefore, there's no source files to speak of inside the package. Apparently, the 10.3 package installer crashes when there's no files to install, so I put in a little .txt file placeholder and I have the package's default output location set to "/tmp" (and the crash goes away). Now I'm just left with the above console errors with the package saying errors occurred during installation. Again, everything works fine under Tiger (and I have no info for if it works on Jaguar). If you'd like to try the installer, it's at: http://seeyourmusic.com/g-force/dl/G-Force_300_iTunes.sit Sorry if I missed something obvious, and I appreciate people's time. Thanks in advance, Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Conditional install of special package under 10.2
by Sanford Selznick 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, When I double-click third_party.mpkg, it wants to install just fine. I did this, and it works great. Thank you all for your help off-line. Best, Sanford _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 10:19 AM -0700 6/1/05, Sanford Selznick wrote: At 9:07 AM -0700 5/31/05, Sanford Selznick wrote: My installer needs to run on 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4. When my installer is run on 10.2, I need to install a second package. I have the second package (mpkg file) from a third party. I don't have the components of the second package. How do I build my installer so the third-party installer will only be executed on 10.2? Per an off-list recommendation, I put an InstallationCheck into the Resources folder of the third_party.mpkg. The script works when uttered from the command-line. Am I missing something? Shouldn't the InstallationCheck return value of 64 just quit? Or is this a .mpkg thing? The problem was the third-party package I was installing in my "top level" package had multiple sub packages of its own. The InstallationCheck script had to be placed in every sub-package of the third-party package, not just the highest level of the third-party package alone. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther
by Andy O'Meara 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Update.... Argh, it gets more confusing.... I open Xcode 2.1, make a new Carbon .bundle project, build it, drag the resulting .bundle to my OS 10.3 machine, and poof--it doesn't even display as a bundle in 10.3, just a document icon that I can explore (like I can with a package, etc). Andy > >> >> if this is the official installer URL and official location. The >> archive is a .sit archive. Stuffit Expander is no more available (by >> default) on Tiger. So when you download the file, you end up with a >> file that you can't extract... unless you download Stuffit Expander. >> >> May I suggest to move to a disk image, compressed or not? > > Wow... Interesting.. I thought stuffit shipped on tiger... Ugh.... > > > Separately, I have mode progress with my problem... > > My .bundle doesn't show up as a bundle under 10.3, so clearly my bundle isn't > compliant in some way. Other than set type BNDL, a signature/creator, and > the bundle identifier, what could be going wrong? > > Here's the plist: > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" > "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> > <plist version="1.0"> > <dict> > <key>CFBundleIdentifier</key> > <string>com.soundspectrum.gforce</string> > <key>CFBundleName</key> > <string>G-Force</string> > <key>CFBundleGetInfoString</key> > <string>G-Force 3.0, Copyright ¬© 2005 SoundSpectrum, Inc. All rights > reserved.</string> > <key>CFBundlePackageType</key> > <string>BNDL</string> > <key>CFBundleSignature</key> > <string>????</string> > <key>CFBundleVersion</key> > <string>3.0</string> > <key>CFBundleShortVersionString</key> > <string>G-Force 3.0</string> > <key>CFBundleLongVersionString</key> > <string>G-Force 3.0 by Andy O'Meara</string> > <key>CFBundleDevelopmentRegion</key> > <string>English</string> > <key>CFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion</key> > <string>6.0</string> > <key>LSPrefersCarbon</key> > <true/> > </dict> > </plist> > > Thanks, > Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther
by Andy O'Meara 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 > > if this is the official installer URL and official location. The > archive is a .sit archive. Stuffit Expander is no more available (by > default) on Tiger. So when you download the file, you end up with a > file that you can't extract... unless you download Stuffit Expander. > > May I suggest to move to a disk image, compressed or not? Wow... Interesting.. I thought stuffit shipped on tiger... Ugh.... Separately, I have mode progress with my problem... My .bundle doesn't show up as a bundle under 10.3, so clearly my bundle isn't compliant in some way. Other than set type BNDL, a signature/creator, and the bundle identifier, what could be going wrong? Here's the plist: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>CFBundleIdentifier</key> <string>com.soundspectrum.gforce</string> <key>CFBundleName</key> <string>G-Force</string> <key>CFBundleGetInfoString</key> <string>G-Force 3.0, Copyright ¬© 2005 SoundSpectrum, Inc. All rights reserved.</string> <key>CFBundlePackageType</key> <string>BNDL</string> <key>CFBundleSignature</key> <string>????</string> <key>CFBundleVersion</key> <string>3.0</string> <key>CFBundleShortVersionString</key> <string>G-Force 3.0</string> <key>CFBundleLongVersionString</key> <string>G-Force 3.0 by Andy O'Meara</string> <key>CFBundleDevelopmentRegion</key> <string>English</string> <key>CFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion</key> <string>6.0</string> <key>LSPrefersCarbon</key> <true/> </dict> </plist> Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther
by Stephane Sudre 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Andy O'Meara wrote: [...] If you'd like to try the installer, it's at: http://seeyourmusic.com/g-force/dl/G-Force_300_iTunes.sit One quick comment: May I suggest to move to a disk image, compressed or not? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Sorry if I missed something obvious, and I appreciate people's time. if this is the official installer URL and official location. The archive is a .sit archive. Stuffit Expander is no more available (by default) on Tiger. So when you download the file, you end up with a file that you can't extract... unless you download Stuffit Expander. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Package made by PackageMaker 2.0 getting exception in Panther
by Andy O'Meara 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Hey guys.. Hopefully folks here can solve this one--I would have thought it would have been addressed by now, but I didn't get any hits from an archive search... So I have my shiny new package built by PackageMaker 2.0, and all is well tiger... So we launch the new version of our software this morning and emails from 10.3 users start pouring in about the installer erroring out. I don't have a 10.3 machine handy, so I has to go to some lengths to get access to one, and look at the console, and I see: 2005-06-08 13:20:41.371 Installer[657] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: Some files for ... may not have been written correctly. (code 1) 2005-06-08 13:24:53.585 Installer[692] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: Some files for ... may not have been written correctly. (code 1) The only thing semi-unusual about the installer is that the installed files are alongside the installer and are moved to user locations via the preflight script. Therefore, there's no source files to speak of inside the package. Apparently, the 10.3 package installer crashes when there's no files to install, so I put in a little .txt file placeholder and I have the package's default output location set to "/tmp" (and the crash goes away). Now I'm just left with the above console errors with the package saying errors occurred during installation. Again, everything works fine under Tiger (and I have no info for if it works on Jaguar). If you'd like to try the installer, it's at: http://seeyourmusic.com/g-force/dl/G-Force_300_iTunes.sit Sorry if I missed something obvious, and I appreciate people's time. Thanks in advance, Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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