June 2006 - Installer-dev - lists.apple.com

[BETA] Iceberg 1.2
by Stéphane Sudre 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com http://s.sudre.free.fr/files/ice1A38.zip _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… As I saw that some people are using this application, it might be worth announcing that there is a Beta 1 of Iceberg 1.2 available at the following URL: Modifications include: Universal Binary, Support for Installer Plugins, New Build window, new goldin tool to replace SplitForks, etc. For more information, you can refer to the English Release Notes in the application's help menu. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Fonts Loosing Type/Creator Information...
by Fisher, Allen 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcaP+coAgK3qT9XLRxaCUeeB3ZJ2yg== Thread-topic: Fonts Loosing Type/Creator Information... List-- I'm creating a font installer using Iceberg/PackageMaker for use in 10.3.9 and later on an Intel iMac running 10.4.6. After the fonts are installed, their type and creator have been stripped from the file. (GetFileInfo shows "" for both type and creator) The source files contain the correct data, and after installation do not. Any suggestions as to what might be going on? Thanks, Allen Allen J. Fisher QA Engineer MakeMusic afisher(a)makemusic.com www.makemusic.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Mike Fischer 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Wayne! Am 14.06.2006 um 18:43 schrieb Wayne Linder: [snip] -- mark the main window to open up when mounted do shell script "bless -openfolder /Volumes/Solutions" That was the other trick I had already solved. Thanks anyway! Mike -- Mike Fischer Softwareentwicklung, EDV-Beratung Schulung, Vertrieb Note: I read this list in digest mode! Send me a private copy for faster responses. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Yep, you found the same Finder bug we did. It doesn't seem to want to save the settings unless you click the grow box or sizing widget. Here is what we did to get around it: -- this poop is to fix a Finder bug. It wont record the size of the window without a mouseclick set loop to true activate repeat while loop is true display dialog "click grow box" giving up after 2 if button returned of result is "ok" then set loop to false else delay 2 end if end repeat Yes, that did the trick. Thanks! Now I've got to figure out, how to do this without manual interaction... And yes, I DO like AppleScript. Enjoy! Well, it's one tool I use too. It's powerful but sometimes also very limited. Thanks for your help! If I find a solution to automate everything I'll post it to the list. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Mike Fischer 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks Greg! Am 14.06.2006 um 17:10 schrieb Greg Morgan: Mike, ...yep, seems to produce the same result as my script base solution. bless -folder "/Volumes/$PKGNAME" -openfolder "/Volumes/$PKGNAME" Thanks! Mike -- Mike Fischer Softwareentwicklung, EDV-Beratung Schulung, Vertrieb Address: Bundesstrasse 9, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany Phone: +49 (0)40/45038886, Fax: +49 (0)40/45038887 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I found this tutorial on the web that explains what you need to do to accomplish this. Although done in a pedantic style, the information is good. I hope this is what you were looking for. http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2003/10/24/dmg This seems to be very similar to what I described doing in response to Waynes reply. The major difference is that I'm using hdiutil directly from a shell script instead of manually using Disk Utility.app and I'm setting the Finder attributes using an AppleScript. I'll verify that the manual approach yields the same partially faulty result, just to be sure... If your dmg is for download or a CD and you want the dmg to auto mount after it's downloaded or the CD inserted, use this utility before you do the final 'New Image from Volume or Folder’ step: http://autoopen.nibfile.com/ Thanks! I'll take a look at it. This is not my primary concern at the moment though. A bit of searching on the internet did produce the bless tool as the main trick to get the window to open with its saved settings. I'm still working on the window size problem, though Wayne has given me a workaround. Sorry if this is an off topic reply. Perfectly on topic to my question which might not be on topic for this list though ;-) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Wayne Linder 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcaP0a7J7ZoOcfvEEdq46gANk8GE7A== Thread-topic: How do I get the Finder window layout correct? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Mike Fischer 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Wayne! Am 14.06.2006 um 17:04 schrieb Wayne Linder: So this is a good first step it seems. It basically does this: -- But these don't seem to have any effect at all: update every item of f update f end tell Mike -- Mike Fischer Softwareentwicklung, EDV-Beratung Schulung, Vertrieb Address: Bundesstrasse 9, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany Phone: +49 (0)40/45038886, Fax: +49 (0)40/45038887 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The way I do it is to create a disk image first, copy all the components to that image and then lay out all of the stuff - installer package, documentation folders, background image, icon size, position, etc. and then eject the disk image. When remounted, you should be all set, including the .DS_Store which makes the magic happen. Thanks for this hint. I tried it and it works somewhat better than what I had before. Now some of the layout options are honored whan mounting the disk image. The window size and the fact that I want icon view are ignored though. I get a window without sidebar or toolbar in list view (my default) at the size of another open Finder window (much too large for the installer). I want a small(er) window without any tool- ar sidebar in icon view. BTW: I'm creating all of this from a shell script which calls an AppleScript to set the Finder options. PKGNAME="MYPACKAGE" cd ... # my base directory hdiutil create -ov -format UDRW -srcfolder "." -volname "$PKGNAME" - attach "../${PKGNAME}_rw.dmg" osascript "../../../srcroot/Tools/SetFinderWindow_${PKGNAME}_DI.scpt" hdiutil detach "/Volumes/$PKGNAME" hdiutil convert "../${PKGNAME}_rw.dmg" -ov -format UDCO -o "../ $PKGNAME.dmg" The AppleScript creates a new Finder window, sets its target to the mounted disk image volume then tells it to set a number of attributes of the window: tell application "Finder" set f to disk "MYPACKAGE" set w to make new Finder window tell w set target to f set current view to icon view set statusbar visible to false set sidebar width to 0 set toolbar visible to false set position to {100, 100} set bounds to {100, 100, 100 + 290, 100 + 105} end tell -- Now position the items on the volume at specific positions. -- - Code ommitted because it's probably irrelevant to my question. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Greg Morgan 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcaPxKiA50x2QPu3EdqyjwAUUQQmKA== Thread-topic: How do I get the Finder window layout correct? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Mike, I found this tutorial on the web that explains what you need to do to accomplish this. Although done in a pedantic style, the information is good. I hope this is what you were looking for. http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2003/10/24/dmg If your dmg is for download or a CD and you want the dmg to auto mount after it's downloaded or the CD inserted, use this utility before you do the final 'New Image from Volume or Folder¹ step: http://autoopen.nibfile.com/ I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish this, but this is how I do it. Sorry if this is an off topic reply. Thanks, Greg Morgan Product Manager Ashlar-Vellum 800-877-2745 On 6/14/06 8:28 AM, "Mike Fischer" <mike_fischer(a)mac.com> wrote: > Hi! > > This a question related to building installers in general, not > necessarily using the Installer.app packages. So I hope I'm on topic > here. > > As the last step in creating an insataller I am currently setting up > a Finder window with the layout and the contents I want to deliver. > Then I create a disk image file from that folder. > > My problem is that the mounted image does not open in the same layout > that I specified before creating the Finder window. > > So my question is: How do I get an image to open a Finder window with > a certain layout after mounting it in the Finder? > > > I have tried using AppleScript to 'update' the items contained in the > window as well as the folder shown in the window as well. > > I have also noticed that there is no .DS_Store file at the top level > of my Finder window. And I see no way to force one to be created. > > > I know this can be done because many products delivered on disk > images invariably open to custom view settings and layout in the Finder. > > > Anyone know how to do this? Thanks! > > Mike _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Wayne Linder 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcaPw8v3Ck5dr/u3Edq46gANk8GE7A== Thread-topic: How do I get the Finder window layout correct? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 The way I do it is to create a disk image first, copy all the components to that image and then lay out all of the stuff - installer package, documentation folders, background image, icon size, position, etc. and then eject the disk image. When remounted, you should be all set, including the .DS_Store which makes the magic happen. Wayne > From: Mike Fischer <mike_fischer(a)mac.com> > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:28:18 +0200 > To: Installer-DEV ML <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: How do I get the Finder window layout correct? > > Hi! > > This a question related to building installers in general, not > necessarily using the Installer.app packages. So I hope I'm on topic > here. > > As the last step in creating an insataller I am currently setting up > a Finder window with the layout and the contents I want to deliver. > Then I create a disk image file from that folder. > > My problem is that the mounted image does not open in the same layout > that I specified before creating the Finder window. > > So my question is: How do I get an image to open a Finder window with > a certain layout after mounting it in the Finder? > > > I have tried using AppleScript to 'update' the items contained in the > window as well as the folder shown in the window as well. > > I have also noticed that there is no .DS_Store file at the top level > of my Finder window. And I see no way to force one to be created. > > > I know this can be done because many products delivered on disk > images invariably open to custom view settings and layout in the Finder. > > > Anyone know how to do this? Thanks! > > Mike > -- > Mike Fischer Softwareentwicklung, EDV-Beratung > Schulung, Vertrieb > Web: <http://homepage.mac.com/mike_fischer/index.html> > Note: I read this list in digest mode! > Send me a private copy for faster responses. > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/linder%40iomega.com > > This email sent to linder(a)iomega.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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How do I get the Finder window layout correct?
by Mike Fischer 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi! Anyone know how to do this? Thanks! Mike -- Mike Fischer Softwareentwicklung, EDV-Beratung Schulung, Vertrieb Web: <http://homepage.mac.com/mike_fischer/index.html> Note: I read this list in digest mode! Send me a private copy for faster responses. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This a question related to building installers in general, not necessarily using the Installer.app packages. So I hope I'm on topic here. As the last step in creating an insataller I am currently setting up a Finder window with the layout and the contents I want to deliver. Then I create a disk image file from that folder. My problem is that the mounted image does not open in the same layout that I specified before creating the Finder window. So my question is: How do I get an image to open a Finder window with a certain layout after mounting it in the Finder? I have tried using AppleScript to 'update' the items contained in the window as well as the folder shown in the window as well. I have also noticed that there is no .DS_Store file at the top level of my Finder window. And I see no way to force one to be created. I know this can be done because many products delivered on disk images invariably open to custom view settings and layout in the Finder. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Where did the group 'wheel' come from?
by Brian Ray 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I was curious about the origins of 'wheel' group. Here is what I found: In summary: Did we get off topic? Brian Ray _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-December/ thread.html#1724> * It came from the DECSystem-10/20 culture, where "wheel" was shorthand for "administrator." * May have come from "big wheel" which means boss * Remember the Simpson's episode where Milhouse describes his dad as a, "big wheel down at the cracker factory" * The terms "Big Wheel" and "Big Cheese" originally referred to those who were wealthy enough to purchase a whole wheel of cheese. (foodreference.com) * A lot of people think it was the basis for "wheeler dealer" * Cassell's Dictionary of Slang says that "big wheel" originates from the 1930s: big wheel n. [1930s+] an important, influential person, esp. in business. [the image of a smooth-running, powerful machine] This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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