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Re: Searching for multiple instances of an application?
by Paul Miller 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Mark - Any idea what I'm missing here? Thanks!! Mark On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Paul Miller wrote: -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Mark Krenek wrote: I've written an installer plugin to do this same thing - find all target apps and let the user pick which one to update. This is done in code in the plugin. NSMetadataQuery is Spotlight. I use it to find ALL applications. Then I search through that list looking for the specific apps I want (by bundle identifier or name). It may be possible to configure a query that does that automatically. Here's basically what I do: query = [[NSMetadataQuery alloc] init]; [query setSearchScopes:[NSArray arrayWithObject:targetVolume]]; [query setPredicate:[NSPredicate predicateWithFormat:@"kMDItemContentTypeTree = 'com.apple.application-bundle'"]]; [[NSNotificationCenter defaultCenter] addObserver:self selector:@selector(_queryNotification:) name:nil object:query]; [query startQuery]; My _queryNotification routine is where I scan the results. Got this all working and building a datasource for a NSTableView which shows the supported applications. The first column uses a Checkbox formatter so it can be toggled on/off. I've implemented a tableView:setObjectValue:forTableColumn:row method but when I click on one of the check-boxes, it is never called, and the app crashes down in objc_msgSend in [NSCell setObjectValue:]. Karl Kuehn wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Paul Miller wrote: I'm working on an Installer plugin that will install my stuff into multiple copies of Photoshop (ie Photoshop CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, etc). So I want to search for and find all copies of an application named "Photoshop" with a certain signature. I think LSGetApplicationForInfo() will only get me the "default" one. What's the best way to search for ALL of them, noting that they might not all be in /Applications? You probably want to use Spotlight (if you can afford to go 10.4 and above). You can do this in a script with mdfind. Building the right find command can be a bit of an art, but you probably will only want to look for applications with a name matching a pattern. But you can do more, and even find things where the user has changed the outside "name". Yeah, we're shooting for 10.4 and up - sounds like a good approach. Can you suggest how I could execute this script (preinstall/preupgrade?) and query the results in my installer plugin? Or should I just launch the script directly within the plugin and parse the results (popen?)? Thanks for any tips. This is all pretty new to me, though I am making some decent progress on my installer plugin UI. -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com <mailto:paul@fxtech.com> | www.fxtech.com <http://www.fxtech.com> | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com <mailto:Installer-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/mark%40aspyr.com This email sent to mark(a)aspyr.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Searching for multiple instances of an application?
by Mark Krenek 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

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Component with helper application install
by Philip Aker 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Greetings from Vancouver, Background info: § TIA for any tips. Philip Aker echo astwta@lvpc.dslh@nl | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Our QuickTime component is currently distributed with a helper background application embedded in the component's Resources folder. The purpose of the app is to provide info to the system about a file type that QuickTime Player doesn't know about, an icon for the file type, and forward double-clicks on our files to QTP. When we claim the file type this way we get QuickLook previews in Leopard for free. The lowest system supported is 10.4. Our problem is on Leopard. We want to work around the fact that when an application is first run, the user gets a dialog (quarantine?) asking for confirmation that running the app is ok. That's because the QL Preview things don't work as expected unless the application has already been run. That is, the user has to restart from the installer, launch the app by double-clicking one of our files, suffer through "first run", and then restart again. So my question is can we launch the app from our installer package when it is run so as to dispense with the "first run" dialog PITA during the installation process? BTW, I'm using Xcode 3.0/ 10.5.3. I haven't used PackageMaker.app since about 10.3. I like the new interface design but the app seems to have a few problems retaining my settings and crashed a few times. Are there any known issues you can clue me in on? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Searching for multiple instances of an application?
by Paul Miller 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Paul Miller wrote: -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Karl Kuehn wrote: I'm working on an Installer plugin that will install my stuff into multiple copies of Photoshop (ie Photoshop CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, etc). So I want to search for and find all copies of an application named "Photoshop" with a certain signature. I think LSGetApplicationForInfo() will only get me the "default" one. What's the best way to search for ALL of them, noting that they might not all be in /Applications? You probably want to use Spotlight (if you can afford to go 10.4 and above). You can do this in a script with mdfind. Building the right find command can be a bit of an art, but you probably will only want to look for applications with a name matching a pattern. But you can do more, and even find things where the user has changed the outside "name". Yeah, we're shooting for 10.4 and up - sounds like a good approach. Can you suggest how I could execute this script (preinstall/preupgrade?) and query the results in my installer plugin? Or should I just launch the script directly within the plugin and parse the results (popen?)? Thanks for any tips. This is all pretty new to me, though I am making some decent progress on my installer plugin UI. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Searching for multiple instances of an application?
by Karl Kuehn 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=vFzYnmNsTh95GKEpNVTnWZmE6WSfUJpKG6jeE188f4M=; b=XpZiKB++8nspaFymvh+g48ld0w08p2srgQeaZHBjWukGoRh6aF224wDtN5POOM+eL7 b7CrERXXleEupk62No+thUlJhiQ3HkEve7P2xeiw1SATnvfJr/Pu26AlsNWFBMrGkviJ 8/0b8PdTYaHdelwtC0vvDekm/4s5l6NzzSkA4= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=OIvKrlExHJ97DmlnrM0CcgIajJ7ZoLxzkKsZXsBisNyNa18bg7+lHxHfsHeFf6Nctr HLUhB3oLxl7I3Y5/A2trOxFhnaFfu3FVP1/WltYI2/mwtpQxABL89nXSYAQZCbsTgR3t OmMzXmC7Yie/I/o7LIBDzTizfORGq3x3YYStw= On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Paul Miller wrote: -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm working on an Installer plugin that will install my stuff into multiple copies of Photoshop (ie Photoshop CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, etc). So I want to search for and find all copies of an application named "Photoshop" with a certain signature. I think LSGetApplicationForInfo() will only get me the "default" one. What's the best way to search for ALL of them, noting that they might not all be in /Applications? You probably want to use Spotlight (if you can afford to go 10.4 and above). You can do this in a script with mdfind. Building the right find command can be a bit of an art, but you probably will only want to look for applications with a name matching a pattern. But you can do more, and even find things where the user has changed the outside "name". This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Searching for multiple instances of an application?
by Paul Miller 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm working on an Installer plugin that will install my stuff into multiple copies of Photoshop (ie Photoshop CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, etc). So I want to search for and find all copies of an application named "Photoshop" with a certain signature. I think LSGetApplicationForInfo() will only get me the "default" one. What's the best way to search for ALL of them, noting that they might not all be in /Applications? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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removing Target section from InstallerSections.plist
by Paul Miller 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm working on an Installer plugin that will find the target location for me, and I don't want the Target section to show up. If I remove it from the InstallerSections.plist, the installer complains about not having enough disk space. Do I need to some environment variables or something in my plugin to get the rest of the installer to continue properly? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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What is encoding of arguments for install operations ?
by Yun Zhi Lin 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

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Re: how a single product will install to different locations
by Bill Coderre 05 Jul '08

05 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com - look for the locations of possibly multiple Photoshop installation - request admin authentication - for each selected destination: Initial impression is that this sounds like it will work. You should use a flat package if you need the new flat-package features. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Jul 2, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Stéphane Sudre wrote: Maybe a solution is to rely on Installer.app for what it can do and use another solution to do what it can't. In the case described, if we omit installations from Terminal or ARD, a solution could be to write a helper app that would: - present the list to the user (checkboxes to select where to install it) 1. Modify the default location to the appropriate one within the package (good luck with a FLAT package) 2. install the package through the installer command line tool. (Yeah, progression would not be displayed but it does prevent you to display an indeterminate progress bar in the helper app). I just want to mention that there is no requirement you use a flat package for 10.5.x. It is quite happy to install a 10.4 or 10.3 package. In addition, you COULD use pkgutil to expand and flatten the package, if you're really into it. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Adobe Creative Suite 3 - how are you guys pkg'ing for deployment?
by Don Montalvo 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I haven't had much lock with loggen and iceberg. I haven't tried pkggen, which can parse the output of loggen and gather all the parts (I assume to bring into Iceberg manually or automagically?). CS2 was a beast. Last year I spent a weekend packaging it and we pushed to 40+ Macs in one of our US office. I've had miserable luck with CS3 and wanted to ask you all how you're dealing with this. We're not looking for a big solution like Filewave, Radmind, LanDEV/LanDESK, etc....we're just looking for info on how to package up CS3 Standard using the standard pkg format. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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