January 2009 - Installer-dev

Actually *want* relocatable -- can't get it...
by Dodger 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

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[Regression?] Flat Package, Background Image and Resizable Window
by Iceberg-Dev 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

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Re: Give HTML CD-ROM an "installer" look
by Iceberg-Dev 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=gcytJPGMaFfRUZ/hpY6YwtQ2ha5MvlCabkewxt9XPvs=; b=BS2Ztuw+BSCb7HG7YF0LwD4nl0vPP5JXP4UCEXAg6iihu1JYVcds2D7+aNZqTjg0mZ pt1qTdJxkcy93VE804q4yI4XXqfZz3FfZG8WPc5ex4ckstrK8onPSNC/xenRD7DaL2ci 4QzzDoc1GzbDplm/79xBVI26vDXOMJDqK4/9Q= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=T4ykRVKWYGv0qV5650uEYDjCU2/GPCYl24wpEkKiLJM3Oe7z/wx3yGVAmg0FRKxsqv H4f39IFIS0W4QZwcVCFW/0F8/aegWSgo1ac5k7OAwZRYpEkzNy1q0A1fngiPhC5+cVD8 aZjN/0Df04J/8r/hQYL1f7F1WTZWKbj3pQWmA= On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Mark Petereit wrote: My $0.02 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have created some HTML content that I need to distribute on CDROM. The CDROM needs to work on Macs and PCs. In the root I have an index.htm file and a folder that contains all of the contents. My jacket instructions tell people they need to insert the CD-ROM, then click on the index.htm file. Pretty boring. I have noticed when downloading Mac .dmg files of applications over the internet, that when the download completes, the .dmg is mounted and automatically opened to reveal the installation screen. Often times, this installation screen has the application icon and a shortcut to the Application folder, usually with an arrow suggesting to the user that they should drag the app icon to the Application shortcut to install it. The better implementations have other graphics, company logos and miscellaneous information, etc. What I would like to know is if it's possible to create that same type of experience for my CD-ROM content. Ideally, I'd like that window to pop up as soon as the CD-ROM is inserted and mounted. I know that Mac doesn't do "autorun" of an application, but I was hoping it could at least automatically open a default folder -- a folder that with rich graphical content and layout alongside the icon to launch the default HTM file. I hope my description makes sense. I would REALLY appreciate any assistance you can offer For Hybrid Mac and PC CD/DVD and auto-reveal of the contents of the CD/DVD, Toast is the best solution IMHO. Sure, you can do it with the command line, if you don't mind ruining your eyes and spending more times doing it with the Terminal. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Give HTML CD-ROM an "installer" look
by Everette Clemmer 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

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Re: Give HTML CD-ROM an "installer" look
by Alexander von Below 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Alex Am 23.01.2009 um 22:01 schrieb Mark Petereit: Thanks!! Mark Petereit -- שלום _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/below%40mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Yes, you can create the same experience, but you need to create a Hybrid CD-ROM to do that. You can either create two seperate partitions (if the data is no larger than half your media size), or you can create a shared Hybrid Disk. I believe Toast supports shared Hybrid, but burning CD-ROMs is long beyond me. Of course, it also supports non-shared hybrids. If you create a non-shared Hybrid, you should cerate an HFS(+) dmg, and lay it out the way you want it. Then combine it with an ISO-9660 Image, I think that hdiutil should be able to do this I have created some HTML content that I need to distribute on CDROM. The CDROM needs to work on Macs and PCs. In the root I have an index.htm file and a folder that contains all of the contents. My jacket instructions tell people they need to insert the CD-ROM, then click on the index.htm file. Pretty boring. I have noticed when downloading Mac .dmg files of applications over the internet, that when the download completes, the .dmg is mounted and automatically opened to reveal the installation screen. Often times, this installation screen has the application icon and a shortcut to the Application folder, usually with an arrow suggesting to the user that they should drag the app icon to the Application shortcut to install it. The better implementations have other graphics, company logos and miscellaneous information, etc. What I would like to know is if it's possible to create that same type of experience for my CD-ROM content. Ideally, I'd like that window to pop up as soon as the CD-ROM is inserted and mounted. I know that Mac doesn't do "autorun" of an application, but I was hoping it could at least automatically open a default folder -- a folder that with rich graphical content and layout alongside the icon to launch the default HTM file. I hope my description makes sense. I would REALLY appreciate any assistance you can offer. This email sent to below(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Give HTML CD-ROM an "installer" look
by Mark Petereit 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

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Re: Package Maker problem
by Aaron Griffin 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

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Re: Package Maker problem
by Rick Cochran 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20081209) Glad it worked. No, I don't know if it is still needed with mpkg from PackageMaker 3.0.3. -Rick Hey Rick, Here's what works for me: It works perfectly! Thanks a lot! BTW: Removing IFPkgPathMappings was sufficient, IFPkgRelocatedPath does not appear in my package. Do you know if it is still needed with mpkg from PackageMaker 3.0.3? Best, Mario Emmenlauer -Rick Hi Bill, I'm referencing an old message here, where you adress my exact problem: I would very much like to get my hands on this specific email, however I could not find it in the archives (maybe it was on a different list? You post too frequent to be sure:-) ). My problem is that I generate the PackageMaker configuration auto- matically, and call PackageMaker with it. The relocatable flag is then *always* turned on, no matter what I specify in the xml. I tried PackageMaker versions 3.0.0 - 3.0.3 to no success. Can you tell me how to rip out the relocatable flag from either the xml before running PackageMaker, or from the final mpkg package? Best, Mario _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/rcc2%40cornell.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Rick Cochran wrote: sed -e '/<key>IFPkgPathMappings<\/key>/,/<\/dict>/d' -e '/<key>IFPkgRelocatedPath<\/key>/,/<string>.\/<\/string>/d' $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist > Info.plist.sed mv Info.plist.sed $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Bill Coderre wrote: On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Adil Saleem wrote: Previously i was using Package Maker on Mac OS 10.4 without any problems. Now, for the first time, i have to use the Package Maker (ver 3.0.3) on Mac OS 10.5. I created a package that installs the application in /Applications/MyApp folder. On running the package, it creates the folder MyApp in /Applications folder, but the folder is empty. The application file does not get copied. Any idea why this is happening ? Very likely PackageMaker is turning on the relocation flag due to a longstanding bug. Relocation means that the Installer tries to find an existing copy of your app to update. Say, the one in the source folder that your package is built out of. About a month ago, I wrote a couple of emails explaining how to override this flag -- ripping it out of the appropriate places in the finished package. This email sent to rcc2(a)cornell.edu This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package Maker problem
by Mario Emmenlauer 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) Hey Rick, Here's what works for me: It works perfectly! Thanks a lot! BTW: Removing IFPkgPathMappings was sufficient, IFPkgRelocatedPath does not appear in my package. Do you know if it is still needed with mpkg from PackageMaker 3.0.3? Best, Mario Emmenlauer -Rick Hi Bill, I'm referencing an old message here, where you adress my exact problem: I would very much like to get my hands on this specific email, however I could not find it in the archives (maybe it was on a different list? You post too frequent to be sure:-) ). My problem is that I generate the PackageMaker configuration auto- matically, and call PackageMaker with it. The relocatable flag is then *always* turned on, no matter what I specify in the xml. I tried PackageMaker versions 3.0.0 - 3.0.3 to no success. Can you tell me how to rip out the relocatable flag from either the xml before running PackageMaker, or from the final mpkg package? Best, Mario _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/rcc2%40cornell.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Rick Cochran wrote: sed -e '/<key>IFPkgPathMappings<\/key>/,/<\/dict>/d' -e '/<key>IFPkgRelocatedPath<\/key>/,/<string>.\/<\/string>/d' $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist > Info.plist.sed mv Info.plist.sed $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Bill Coderre wrote: On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Adil Saleem wrote: Previously i was using Package Maker on Mac OS 10.4 without any problems. Now, for the first time, i have to use the Package Maker (ver 3.0.3) on Mac OS 10.5. I created a package that installs the application in /Applications/MyApp folder. On running the package, it creates the folder MyApp in /Applications folder, but the folder is empty. The application file does not get copied. Any idea why this is happening ? Very likely PackageMaker is turning on the relocation flag due to a longstanding bug. Relocation means that the Installer tries to find an existing copy of your app to update. Say, the one in the source folder that your package is built out of. About a month ago, I wrote a couple of emails explaining how to override this flag -- ripping it out of the appropriate places in the finished package. This email sent to rcc2(a)cornell.edu This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package Maker problem
by Mario Emmenlauer 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) Hi Bill, I'm referencing an old message here, where you adress my exact problem: I would very much like to get my hands on this specific email, however I could not find it in the archives (maybe it was on a different list? You post too frequent to be sure:-) ). My problem is that I generate the PackageMaker configuration auto- matically, and call PackageMaker with it. The relocatable flag is then *always* turned on, no matter what I specify in the xml. I tried PackageMaker versions 3.0.0 - 3.0.3 to no success. Can you tell me how to rip out the relocatable flag from either the xml before running PackageMaker, or from the final mpkg package? Best, Mario _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Bill Coderre wrote: On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Adil Saleem wrote: Previously i was using Package Maker on Mac OS 10.4 without any problems. Now, for the first time, i have to use the Package Maker (ver 3.0.3) on Mac OS 10.5. I created a package that installs the application in /Applications/MyApp folder. On running the package, it creates the folder MyApp in /Applications folder, but the folder is empty. The application file does not get copied. Any idea why this is happening ? Very likely PackageMaker is turning on the relocation flag due to a longstanding bug. Relocation means that the Installer tries to find an existing copy of your app to update. Say, the one in the source folder that your package is built out of. About a month ago, I wrote a couple of emails explaining how to override this flag -- ripping it out of the appropriate places in the finished package. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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