April 2009 - Installer-dev - lists.apple.com

PackageMaker and AppleScript check
by Marco Bambini 30 Apr '09

30 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, Thanks, Marco Bambini _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am developing an installer using PackageMaker (10.4 target) ... what I would like to do at startup is to check if a file exists and then ask the user if he want to remove it? If yes the file will be deleted, otherwise it will be retained... then the standard installation process can continue. I can use AppleScript and the script would be easy to write, but I wonder how I can embed it into the installer. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Modifying Strings on the Installing Dialog
by Andrew Peckover 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi William, Not sure if you have got an answer yet... --- Andrew Hello, I'm using PackageMaker 3.0.3 (174) and looking for a way to modify the "Installation" dialog. I'd like to modify the string right above the progress bar. By default it says "Installing <PackageName>" where PackageName is automatically determined by the name if the file(s) in the package. Is it possible to either modify the automatically-generated package names or modify the strings displayed when installing? -William *********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I find it strange that the program doesn't let us change the name of the package - at least I don't know of a way. If anyone knows a way, please let us know. It is determined by your source folder name, and then that name is displayed during installation and also given to the name of the Library/Receipt/... I thought I might be able to change the package name in raw editing mode, but doesn't seem to be possible. Maybe there is a good reason for that, have no idea. You said..... <<it says "Installing <PackageName>" where PackageName is automatically determined by the name if the file(s) in the package.>> I find that it is actually determined by the last folder in my "Install" path in the configuration pane (my source folder), is that what you're saying, or is yours working differently? I'm also using version 3. I have selected "Absolute path" rather than "relative to project, maybe that makes a difference. The way I've sometimes been getting it to display what I want, is by just giving that name to my source folder. It has also helped to select/deselect "include root in package" in the contents pane (changing the "destination" path accordingly), depending on what folder name I want displayed. But for various reasons, it's hasn't been ideal for me to change my source folder names, and I also ran into a problem when I had a distribution with multiple packages that all had the same folder name. i.e. package 1: /folder1/myfolder | package 2: /folder2/myfolder | package3: /folder3/myfolder. This does work if you're careful, but seriously confuses PackageMaker in some cases to the point of having to redo the entire distribution. (make backups). The other approach, modifying strings - I'm not seeing a way to do it. Seems logical that it would be possible though... ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Smith" <william.smith(a)radialpoint.com> To: "Installer-Dev mailing-list" <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Modifying Strings on the Installing Dialog This e-mail and its attachments are confidential, legally privileged, may be subject to copyright and sent solely for the attention of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of Radialpoint. Le contenu de ce courriel est confidentiel, privilégié et peut être soumis à des droits d'auteur. Il est envoyé à l'intention exclusive de son ou de ses destinataires. Il est interdit de l'utiliser ou de le divulguer sans autorisation. Les opinions exprimées dans le présent courriel peuvent diverger de celles de Radialpoint. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/apeckover%40pgmusic.com This email sent to apeckover(a)pgmusic.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Verbose logging?
by Matt Mitchell 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

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Re: Preventing resizing of Installer window.
by Iceberg-Dev 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

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Preventing resizing of Installer window.
by Raghunandan R 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

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Re: Localizing custom choice descriptions?
by Kevin Draz 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: ... read, it's completely buggy... A statement beyond irony... I'm ready to gouge my eyes out. Perhaps I target 10.3 and then add an install-check script for 10.5... Thanks again for your help. KD _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Both PM and its associated tools are proving more difficult to use to create an installer than porting a multi-threaded, GPU-accelerated video rendering engine. Less math, but way more bugs. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Localizing custom choice descriptions?
by Iceberg-Dev 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=bakF2yUr1KAqt3LFt3WQXLoa3ZvsOA/EapcHS80HmWE=; b=qmo88m/eTquyJxX/2MoWgk29M3bO6tQDcr8nXiKtyjaymTUzqZAXjK8hmk3j96nDDA 4c1FTzUoINgTGFOzL9trHrxhV6zvEFXVLpVbB8lGwGdfacHeEycywAaILotDjVBwT2Dd CpeqymCSH8li43416djZre/Fv3/zp0pjtFlAY= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=iBN+BV4bc3ggBiDLFbPU8/IgFwUZf//Xrp53K5Ft8goIcR8n+wedB+TzblAg8wFRfO E4fprOX2kle8KGW+oDrtBMF8vOc19KJ9+3mbU3SLk3J4cq716hzKJLuEaPdDllkK821N rH+HedcRNGG05Amlkfie/L860ggHm8QxKPPnY= On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Kevin Draz wrote: BTDT, UTF-16 tried both ways with and w/o BOM, semicolons present. o If you're building a flat metapackage (10.5 Target): 1. Save the file 2. Close the file 3. Quit Flat Package Editor. http://s.sudre.free.fr/files/Localization_test_Flat.zip Hope it can help. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Yes, it's a 10.5 mpkg. This software requires Leopard and Intel- only. Is it really not possible to localize these strings in a distribution package? Are there docs on the format and files in these bundles so perhaps I can do some post-build scripts to add the L10N? Flat metapackage is the worst case scenario IMHO when you need do some post edition as you need to rely on the Flat Package Editor and this tool has a bad habit of not remembering when you delete a file or add one (read, it's completely buggy). So if you use the Flat Package Editor, the best way to get your modifications taken into account is to: That being said, I made some tests and localizations work fine there too. You can find a sample flat metapackage at the URL below. It includes English and French localizations for the choices. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Localizing custom choice descriptions?
by Kevin Draz 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com o If you're building a non-flat metapackage (10.4 Target): Yes. Not with PackageMaker but with a tool not available yet. Check the encoding or for a missing semi-colon in Localizable.strings. BTDT, UTF-16 tried both ways with and w/o BOM, semicolons present. o If you're building a flat metapackage (10.5 Target): Kevin Draz kevin(a)criticalpath.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: Sadly, I have a project milestone (code complete beta) at the end of this week, so unobtanium tools don't help. Thanks, though. Yes, it's a 10.5 mpkg. This software requires Leopard and Intel- only. Is it really not possible to localize these strings in a distribution package? Are there docs on the format and files in these bundles so perhaps I can do some post-build scripts to add the L10N? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Localizing custom choice descriptions?
by Iceberg-Dev 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=yTtRPehXeQADCGu6raDc/669/Gxy3wk6P6exA5aJ78c=; b=ticd9HjFhg2wEUXqt0+nPOJ9mRD0kONgxdRAbKKDLW15hOwgjvvyiPf2zlKRHvhuYL uaAxzs5EdqTNGKr1EaehDgismwwfTRIcJNdnJoxgUWGBnBkByOPKXowXXYMVQYXAoegG ULuAhhagUWi1Fo0XXvWj+vL8GYrPW98wG/LlY= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pkuVeWtFWzSn5wV8abQi3DVIf3qNoQkEWre45k5vcdx6EN+wXrKc4xKPMwEcUG6kB9 fZcj7cH1aHPR3H88j/jHIUYS/tvIfT4SPeiSLri+VcDxETMqRL7hoizZQZFSG4++gX+d LEra7npuu399QnRQcGVCv+2ghpNrUf+zRv7Mw= On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Kevin Draz wrote: Hi, Correct. o If you're building a non-flat metapackage (10.4 Target): Yes. Not with PackageMaker but with a tool not available yet. Check the encoding or for a missing semi-colon in Localizable.strings. o If you're building a flat metapackage (10.5 Target): I haven't tried yet. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I need to produce a completely localized (6 languages) installer for a commercial product, and I'm using PackageMaker 3.0.3. The installer contains both Easy and Custom install choices. I cannot determine how to localize the tooltip and description text for the Custom choices. There is no UI in PackageMaker 3.0.3 for localizing anything outside the "Edit Interface..." view. Strangely, it does appear that older versions of PackageMaker could do this! (Circa 2006, see: http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/ Vol.22/22.12/2212PackageMaker/index.html, section "Localizing Choices" ) I did find this older posting on this topic in this forum: http:// lists.apple.com/archives/Installer-dev/2008/Jul/msg00135.html However despite adding Localizable.strings files per the directions in the post, I only get the key value displayed when I run the installer, in any language including English. Perhaps I've made an error, but I've re-checked several times. Anyone else ever make this work? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Localizing custom choice descriptions?
by Kevin Draz 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

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