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RE: Upgrading to pm 3.x makes my package relocatable
by Graham J Lee 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 On Tue, April 7, 2009 8:43 am, Francois L'Archeveque wrote: > > Someone has posted a hack to get around this. > http://lists.apple.com/archives/Installer-dev/2008/Oct/msg00007.html > > There's a difference between allowing the user to relocate install > location and telling the installer which locations to search for > upgrading. When generating 10.4 compatible packages on 10.5, packagemaker > has a very strange location search by default (which some people view as a > bug). > fla. Hi François, thanks for that, and apologies for cluttering the list by not seeing the archive result when I searched. That does indeed address my problem, and is good enough that I can get on to other things. BTW I do consider that behaviour a bug so will raise it later - has anyone on the list already raised one that I should reference? Thanks again for your help, Graham. -- Graham J Lee http://thaesofereode.info _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Upgrading to pm 3.x makes my package relocatable
by Francois L'Archeveque 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

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Upgrading to pm 3.x makes my package relocatable
by Graham J Lee 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 Hi all, I have a project, which until recently was built with Xcode 2.5, and a "run script" action which invoked packagemaker like this to build an installer package: "${SYSTEM_DEVELOPER_DIR}/Applications/Utilities/PackageMaker.app/Contents/MacOS/PackageMaker" -build -p "/path/to/package.pkg" -f "${DSTROOT}/Root" -i "Installer/GUI-Info.$$.plist" -d "Installer/GUI-Description.plist" -r "${DSTROOT}/Resources" -ds the Info.plist used as input sets IFPkgDefaultLocation="/", IFPkgFlagRelocatable=false and IFPkgFlagRootVolumeOnly=true. This produced a non-relocatable package. BTW, the Resources folder just contains the scripts such as preflight, preinstall etc. I upgraded to Xcode 3.1.2, and now the package seems to be relocatable on installation - at least, this is how I interpret the fact that the app gets installed over my build/Release/ folder. Having read the list archives and searched online, I found only recommendations to switch off the relocatable flag in the PM document - but I'm not using one. I tried re-casting the packagemaker invocation using the new-style arguments: "${SYSTEM_DEVELOPER_DIR}/usr/bin/packagemaker" --root "${DSTROOT}/Root" --info "Installer/GUI-Info.$$.plist" --scripts "${DSTROOT}/Resources" --root-volume-only --verbose --version "${app_version}" --out "/path/to/package.pkg" however, this doesn't change the behaviour - the payload is still relocated by the installer. I notice that packagemaker has added the following stanza to the Info.plist in the package: <key>IFPkgPathMappings</key> <dict> <key>./Applications/AppName.app</key> <string>{pkmk-token-2}</string> </dict> but has left the other keys alone, including the default location and relocatable keys. So now, I'm stumped :-/. Can I change this command-line invocation to make the payload non-relocatable, or must I create a pmdoc? On a somewhat related note, is it possible to specify a Description.plist in the new-style packagemaker invocation? Thanks for your help, Graham. -- Graham J Lee http://thaesofereode.info _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: "Could not update existing receipt" error
by Andrew Strotheide 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

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Re: "Could not update existing receipt" error
by Rick Mann 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 6, 2009, at 23:11:28, Andrew Strotheide wrote: Rick, Andrew Is there a way? -- Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/strotheide%40google.com This email sent to strotheide(a)google.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Well, I'm familiar enough with receipts to know to look in the / Library/Receipts folder for my package's recept, and remove it. Trouble is, there is no such receipt. I found a few files in /Library/ Receipts/boms, but nothing in /Library/Receipts. I even had a colleague look to double-check. I also checked ~/Library/Receipts. It seems to me that something is written in the installdb DB, and I have no idea how to check that. You will see this error any time you try to re-run your new installer (with admin auth disabled). The UID used when the package was installed before is 0 (root), but the current user has a different uid, which means the receipt cannot be overwritten because the new user does not have ownership. It sounds like you're unfamiliar with receipts. Every time you install a package, the "receipt" for that package is placed in / Library/Receipts. If you go to that folder directly, I expect you're going to find a file with the exact name of the package you are developing. You may safely remove that file if you want your installer to behave as if it has never executed before. Obviously though, if you've released this package previously under the same name, your users would have this problem also, so you would need to take action to prevent that, perhaps by renaming the package. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Rick Mann <rmann(a)latencyzero.com> wrote: We're trying alternatives to our ridiculous install requirements. I'm trying to see if an admin user can install a sys prefs pane without being prompted for a password. When I unchecked the "Require admin authentication", and tried to install our prefs pane, but since I've installed before, I get this: 4/6/09 17:11:22 installdb[43006] Error: Could not update existing receipt using uid=501 as the prior owner is uid=0 Now, I can't find a receipt anywhere, so I don't know how to remove this. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: "Could not update existing receipt" error
by Andrew Strotheide 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

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Re: Admin Authorization?
by Rick Mann 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 6, 2009, at 20:24:22, Dodger wrote: I'm thinking not, and it probably shouldn't. From what I can tell, this is semantically equivalent to calling sudo in a shell (and may well be what it does inside for real, but I don't know all the ins and outs). An "admin user" is effectively a user in the sudoers file or equivalent to one, but you still need to authenticate yourself before doing something sudo-ey. ------- Looking at this document: http://developer.apple.com/tools/installerpolicy.html And why is this doc so out of date? TIA, Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/el.dodgero%40gmail.com This email sent to el.dodgero(a)gmail.com -- Dodger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Not entirely. For example, I can drag-install an application into / Applications without authenticating. 2009/4/6 Rick Mann <rmann(a)latencyzero.com>: I just realized, it seems Leopard offers *only* Admin authentication. However, I am always prompted, even though I am already an admin user. Is there a way to reduce the need to be prompted? I see that what we would like to have used to be available. That is, if the user is already an admin, we don't want them to have to authenticate. Is this no longer available, why? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Admin Authorization?
by Dodger 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

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Re: Pre/Post-installation action documentation?
by Rick Mann 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 5, 2009, at 15:51:46, Iceberg-Dev wrote: On Apr 4, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Rick Mann wrote: Sorry, not sure what this would do for me. -- Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Where is the documentation pertaining to Preinstall and Postinstall actions for a Distribution bundle? Don't expect documentation on this. That's rather cryptic. Why is the feature there, if it isn't, or won't be, documented? What you can do is to build a metapackage for 10.4 and check out the shell script or AppleScript used to quit an application from the buikt package. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Admin Authorization?
by Rick Mann 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com ------- Looking at this document: http://developer.apple.com/tools/installerpolicy.html And why is this doc so out of date? TIA, Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I just realized, it seems Leopard offers *only* Admin authentication. However, I am always prompted, even though I am already an admin user. Is there a way to reduce the need to be prompted? I see that what we would like to have used to be available. That is, if the user is already an admin, we don't want them to have to authenticate. Is this no longer available, why? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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