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Re: Environment variables available only from Cocoa apps
by Wrekso Wibowo 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 20-Apr-09, at 1:27 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Wrekso Wibowo wrote: Hi all, There is one: COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have a postinstall executable as part of an installer. The installer can be launched in one of three ways: - manually (ie. user launching installer by double clicking) - as part of custom installer built by Assistant-like app - using Apple Remote Desktop I'd like to distinguish how it was launched, and behave slightly differently when the Installer is launched manually. As it appears, the postinstall is separate process from the Installer and I haven't found a way to indicate in the postinstall that the Installer is launched manually by user (instead of via ARD). I'm thinking perhaps there is an environment variable that is available and can be checked only within Cocoa apps under Tiger and up. Does anyone know if such thing exists? Any help is appreciated. I am cross-posting to Cocoa-dev in the hope that somebody may have a solution. It can also be accessed from JavaScript. How and where can I access the above environment variable? I tried using getenv() as well as [[NSProcessInfo processInfo] environment] from command line tool and cocoa app respectively without success. Ideally I would have some code in my postinstall that should know how the installer is called. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Environment variables available only from Cocoa apps
by Iceberg-Dev 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

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Environment variables available only from Cocoa apps
by Wrekso Wibowo 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all, Thanks in advance, Wrekso Wibowo _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have a postinstall executable as part of an installer. The installer can be launched in one of three ways: - manually (ie. user launching installer by double clicking) - as part of custom installer built by Assistant-like app - using Apple Remote Desktop I'd like to distinguish how it was launched, and behave slightly differently when the Installer is launched manually. As it appears, the postinstall is separate process from the Installer and I haven't found a way to indicate in the postinstall that the Installer is launched manually by user (instead of via ARD). I'm thinking perhaps there is an environment variable that is available and can be checked only within Cocoa apps under Tiger and up. Does anyone know if such thing exists? Any help is appreciated. I am cross-posting to Cocoa-dev in the hope that somebody may have a solution. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Customize or suppress the Installation Type pane
by Iceberg-Dev 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Fnu9AIFu4BVIX+fJbEAnztS9WJtUYmEjUdEMU9gbukw=; b=VpH0XrcvTGAwxxHParmgIF54i+DoYGJs9Rw54Rns9SgQhbztd59eY9ZVFOD5AWlMrf URcaEdLvtUwp2M1Zwke5eaBjuxJX3aaElLYKWdDV7E4JNdT73vJxUTja3cmCwitYRLBP PSZKUhJw+Z2nalmpkMqIDxoXIvLc3AnB66dw8= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=f0czCah4ZelHG/ounYanpFTa/Ck0ifv9mdHwG+6TIEMwCaW64P8FRc+m78mIZOu2T+ bOew4iGj2TIQuPNKYyJOnuscqWdq70czDQKm+awPqSsDzpOMTs6nacZMV6RVm8RlGZ+b LWNNYUH1N9GL1z569aKg7saL1GQgzPyQOCI2o= On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Steven J. Vogt wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Lora Lozano wrote: Hi, Officially, you can only make the following change: - always display the custom install mode _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… It's the "User Sees" option in the package/distribution pane of PackageMaker. does this only work through the command line? I've never noticed it in the gui. On Apr 17, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: Is there a way to either customize the Installation Type pane (to something quite different than the easy install and custom install views) or suppress it altogether? Any help would be greatly appreciated. - always display the easy install mode. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Get Value From User?
by Bill Coderre 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

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Re: Get Value From User?
by Bryan S. Lee 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcnB087iG1tzwj7JGUmpE3ByC/YP/w== Thread-topic: Get Value From User? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 If you take the lines of code I sent you and copy/paste it into terminal, you'll see the results. I have it setting a terminal variable to what is returned by the script. If you needed multiple values returned, then you might want to go the file route or have each run as a separate script that is equal to the equivalent variable in the shell script (handy if you don't want the possibility of someone reading the info in a hidden file or file name (like a password). If this is for something you plan on publishing publicly or selling, you probably would want to go the plugin route. I have the luxury of doing it with a simple Applescript since my stuff is for internal use only, and hitting a smaller audience (few thousand users). Also, never attempted to make a plugin before. -- Bryan S. Lee > From: Paul Cook <cook.p.d(a)comcast.net> > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:28:02 -0500 > To: Installer-Dev mailing-list <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Get Value From User? > > Thanks, for both the custom plugin suggestion and the AppleScript > suggestion. > > In terms of the AppleScript route, how does the answer get passed to a > script? (If for example, I want to use the answer in a PostFlight > Script?) I suppose one could have AppleScript write it in a file > somewhere and then you could read it from your script. But is there an > easier way? > > I was able to find some information about custom Installer plugins at: > http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/InstallerPluginSample/listing1.html > > I haven't looked at the sample code yet, so I don't know if the same > question applies to the custom installer plugin approach or not. But > unless it is real close to what I want, I may go the AppleScript route. > > Best Wishes, > > Paul > > > On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Paul Cook wrote: > >> Is there anyway from any kind of any Installer script (preflight, >> postflight, etc.) to ask the user for a value and to get that value >> from within a script? (Bash, Perl, AppleScript, etc.) >> >> In this case, we'd like to ask the user for a name of something. And >> then use that name within a script. >> >> My fear based on the answer to the recent progress question is that >> the answer is probably No. But this is just different enough that I >> thought it might be worth hoping otherwise. >> >> Thanks for any help, >> >> Paul >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/cook.p.d%40comcast.net >> >> This email sent to cook.p.d(a)comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/bl%40clemson.edu > > This email sent to bl(a)clemson.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Get Value From User?
by Erik Benoist 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=lz+Uez29SOsM8an1HmtKApUUR3dcmqNI9AntTK47nC8=; b=FKLOP9JmQGnpWOhHIiopCSR9ZO4tOS33mdc3ek6RJEAC6QctjZ/XNi/velebuKez1G 8h8XQzULJaP02pjQVKk2BQrxjUclLQma25cbKh0ZnUQXzRufqKhQxKky2TTb8w5UuRup a101PhFRbbB2VyrL2vlWkbEINTi9xDSDoq3Cs= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=w6D/qSG7Yg4JIGFo6GQ40vmUVk8msDN43yOJYvV9epm4CBFlAAAcXDOgYAKZY8VIFD ex2pii+4T5I9KX8plrX4OtaT6Bc1mCmr9fuuTsNBXp9aZmieHYzN5Lm87O5+SnVVK/sk mCkyabzpdxc3cYeMQbj0qF8CDPRJmJxYGKcKs= -Erik On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Paul Cook wrote: I was able to find some information about custom Installer plugins at: http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/InstallerPluginSample/listing1.html Best Wishes, Paul On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Paul Cook wrote: Thanks for any help, Paul _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/cook.p.d%40comcast.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ebenoist%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Paul- I recently completed a project that did exactly what you're asking. I wrote a Installer Plugin that compiled the input from the user (we were asking many questions) and outputted a bash script that set each of the variables that we were using in the pre/postflight scripts. The preflight script simply called the generated script that lived in /tmp and all the variables were ready to be used. I would definitely recommend going with the Installer Plugin as the UI experience is much more seamless. Thanks, for both the custom plugin suggestion and the AppleScript suggestion. In terms of the AppleScript route, how does the answer get passed to a script? (If for example, I want to use the answer in a PostFlight Script?) I suppose one could have AppleScript write it in a file somewhere and then you could read it from your script. But is there an easier way? I haven't looked at the sample code yet, so I don't know if the same question applies to the custom installer plugin approach or not. But unless it is real close to what I want, I may go the AppleScript route. Is there anyway from any kind of any Installer script (preflight, postflight, etc.) to ask the user for a value and to get that value from within a script? (Bash, Perl, AppleScript, etc.) In this case, we'd like to ask the user for a name of something. And then use that name within a script. My fear based on the answer to the recent progress question is that the answer is probably No. But this is just different enough that I thought it might be worth hoping otherwise. This email sent to cook.p.d(a)comcast.net This email sent to ebenoist(a)gmail.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Get Value From User?
by Paul Cook 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I was able to find some information about custom Installer plugins at: http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/InstallerPluginSample/listing1.html Best Wishes, Paul On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Paul Cook wrote: Thanks for any help, Paul _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/cook.p.d%40comcast.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Thanks, for both the custom plugin suggestion and the AppleScript suggestion. In terms of the AppleScript route, how does the answer get passed to a script? (If for example, I want to use the answer in a PostFlight Script?) I suppose one could have AppleScript write it in a file somewhere and then you could read it from your script. But is there an easier way? I haven't looked at the sample code yet, so I don't know if the same question applies to the custom installer plugin approach or not. But unless it is real close to what I want, I may go the AppleScript route. Is there anyway from any kind of any Installer script (preflight, postflight, etc.) to ask the user for a value and to get that value from within a script? (Bash, Perl, AppleScript, etc.) In this case, we'd like to ask the user for a name of something. And then use that name within a script. My fear based on the answer to the recent progress question is that the answer is probably No. But this is just different enough that I thought it might be worth hoping otherwise. This email sent to cook.p.d(a)comcast.net This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Get Value From User?
by Bryan S. Lee 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcnBfiwMYO0jTYTxTc2ovn7+t+oVlwAQ1x76 Thread-topic: Get Value From User? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Customize or suppress the Installation Type pane
by Steven J. Vogt 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Lora Lozano wrote: Hi, Officially, you can only make the following change: - always display the custom install mode - always display the easy install mode. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/svogt%40gustavus.edu This email sent to svogt(a)gustavus.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… does this only work through the command line? I've never noticed it in the gui. On Apr 17, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: Is there a way to either customize the Installation Type pane (to something quite different than the easy install and custom install views) or suppress it altogether? Any help would be greatly appreciated. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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