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Re: softwareupdate downloads package format?
by Iceberg-Dev 29 May '09

29 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=I4d4bvKJ3cHAVJOsqNpR6TFJBgmJ6c6oDKcgjOtbvm4=; b=B3SSf52cWCUYp14JNZpagC7anBMlc4ihzDOoqWidZpj8XnPIgShBxWMkNjT+y7u6bm Iv8ACbq9lERToZyLabi9yPAHPEcm+ONn0C8T7JkT2PLZx9LM1PpcGQbcGzMH7KAjReBT Rfn2SsZdlkSo+j8P92MawAbGZmPJqVSZJtvP4= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=MQDccM5IYoTjBgxQvEWxNzsdpIF6sb3xKqCE0Ivxqg4fGWLx4leAxPx08oNH7xgJly LK7mOHgl60/k2HjxSwE1jtlrc4bbriV3CqetSUpLStqMXRYLAmfML1/UMlAtMstJ2GOP gQSfEYuRhF4SKEKJkOht50nFu6JrTNy6Q0Ny4= On May 29, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: Update Name/ Packages/ Package1.pkg/ Package2.pkg/ UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.dist -> Packages/UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.mpkg/ Contents/ Packages/ Package1.pkg/ Package2.pkg/ UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.dist -> Packages/UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Now installer seems to recognize it, but still can't install it. My $0.02 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… /usr/sbin/softwareupdate has a --download option, which can be used to download available updates to the current user's Downloads folder. But there's an oddity: some downloaded updates appear not as .pkg or .mpkg files or bundles, but rather as simple directories. These directories have this format: If you point installer at the .dist file inside the Packages directory, some of these downloads will install; others will fail saying the required resources cannot be found. Since this looks a bit like the distribution-style metapackage format, minus the top-level directory, I tried moving the files around like so: Has anyone found a way to reliably install these downloaded updates? If there's no way to do so, what's the point of offering the option to download the updates, if you can't do anything useful with them afterwards? For some examples, the recent Server Admin Tools 10.5.7 update downloads as one of these directories. It can be installed by pointing the installer at the inner-most .dist file. An older update, Pro Applications Update 2008-05, also downloads as a folder with a similar structure, but can't be installed: It is possible that a distribution used for softwareupdate installs nothing when used with Installer.app as there can be 3 choice hierarchies as defined in the Distribution Definition Reference. If the distribution has no 'Installer' or default hierarchy, then it would not install anything AFAIK. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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softwareupdate downloads package format?
by Greg Neagle 29 May '09

29 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Update Name/ Packages/ Package1.pkg/ Package2.pkg/ UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.dist -> Packages/UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.mpkg/ Contents/ Packages/ Package1.pkg/ Package2.pkg/ UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Update Name.dist -> Packages/UpdateName-1.0.0.dist Now installer seems to recognize it, but still can't install it. -Greg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… /usr/sbin/softwareupdate has a --download option, which can be used to download available updates to the current user's Downloads folder. But there's an oddity: some downloaded updates appear not as .pkg or .mpkg files or bundles, but rather as simple directories. These directories have this format: If you point installer at the .dist file inside the Packages directory, some of these downloads will install; others will fail saying the required resources cannot be found. Since this looks a bit like the distribution-style metapackage format, minus the top-level directory, I tried moving the files around like so: Has anyone found a way to reliably install these downloaded updates? If there's no way to do so, what's the point of offering the option to download the updates, if you can't do anything useful with them afterwards? For some examples, the recent Server Admin Tools 10.5.7 update downloads as one of these directories. It can be installed by pointing the installer at the inner-most .dist file. An older update, Pro Applications Update 2008-05, also downloads as a folder with a similar structure, but can't be installed: root# installer -target / -pkg /var/root/Downloads/Pro Applications Update 2008-05/Packages/PAU200805-1.0.dist installer: Package name is Pro Applications Update 2008-05 installer: Upgrading at base path / installer: The upgrade failed (The Installer could not locate the data it needed to install the software. Check your install media or internet connection and try again or contact the software manufacturer for assistance.) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Package maker (3.0.2) brittle at best
by David Preece 26 May '09

26 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Dave _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I've just spent another couple of hours to add to the first couple of hours spent fighting with the package maker. I did have a set of rules about what worked and what didn't: Specifying absolute paths caused the contents of the package to be written to /Applications as Contents/ etc. etc. I also had, for a while, a thing where it would fail to install spewing dozens of "Diverting" messages to the log then successfully installing if I removed my build directory ... but now it doesn't work at all. I'm not trying anything clever, I'm not just dismissing it out of hand and I'm not a complete dimwit so clearly there's something critical I'm missing here. Any idea what it is? Is there an update that fixes the ... glaringly obvious ... issues? BTW, whoever thought it was more important to have reflective icons than to have the thing work (at all) should be sent to work on Vista. smime.p7s

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Bug in PackageMaker regarding permissions?
by Iceberg-Dev 25 May '09

25 May '09

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how to make patch package and install with package maker
by 李剑 22 May '09

22 May '09

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Re: packagemaker and permission unfun...
by jmunson＠his.com 22 May '09

22 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) At least, I didn't see any mention of such... Quoting Erg Consultant <erg_consultant(a)yahoo.com>: Erg ________________________________ From: John Williams <jwilliams(a)typefi.com> To: jmunson(a)his.com Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:29:03 AM Subject: Re: packagemaker and permission unfun... On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jon C. Munson II <jmunson(a)his.com> wrote: Namaste! I'm having a royal pain with a package and setting the relevant permissions, group, etc. For some reason unbeknownst to me, some permissions errors (around 3) started to show up when I built my package. On the warning, it stated to run the disk utility to fix the permissions error(s). So, I did. Now, I get thousands of warnings of the same - permissions aren't right, the owner isn't right, and the permissions aren't right. How do I overcome this issue??? Re-setting this stuff, line-by-line, by hand, will take, well, longer than I care to put in!!! Thanks! Peace, Love, and Light, /s/ Jon C. Munson II _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/jwilliams%40typefi.com This email sent to jwilliams(a)typefi.com -- John Williams Sr Software Engineer Typefi Systems Pty Ltd _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… >From what I read of PM 3.0, it doesn't require staging areas. Is that not a correct interpretation? Read the section "Authorization and Permissions" in the Software Delivery Guide. When the payload gets installed, it gets installed with the permissions set on the staging areas unless you specifically change them in the "File Permissions" dialog box in PM. I have run into the exact same problem. I was getting a couple warnings so I ran disk utility and now I get hundreds! I have chosen to ignore the messages and just ensure that the permissions on my staging folder is correct when I build the installers. I'm still working on the installers so I don't know if this is the correct approach or not. Things seem to work ok so far! - this is kind of a "me too" post, but I just wanted to let you know I feel your pain John This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: packagemaker and permission unfun...
by Erg Consultant 21 May '09

21 May '09

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RE: packagemaker and permission unfun...
by Jon C. Munson II 21 May '09

21 May '09

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Re: packagemaker and permission unfun...
by John Williams 21 May '09

21 May '09

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packagemaker and permission unfun...
by Jon C. Munson II 21 May '09

21 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: JTA Enterprises LLC Thread-index: AcnaJaRGsZUZszXsRly7IVz1BkQobA== Namaste! I'm having a royal pain with a package and setting the relevant permissions, group, etc. For some reason unbeknownst to me, some permissions errors (around 3) started to show up when I built my package. On the warning, it stated to run the disk utility to fix the permissions error(s). So, I did. Now, I get thousands of warnings of the same - permissions aren't right, the owner isn't right, and the permissions aren't right. How do I overcome this issue??? Re-setting this stuff, line-by-line, by hand, will take, well, longer than I care to put in!!! Thanks! Peace, Love, and Light, /s/ Jon C. Munson II _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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