October 2007 - Pro-apps-dev

Re: Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Micah Sharp 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

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Re: sliders obey sliderMin/Max and ignore parameterMin/Max in FxPlug plug-ins on FCP
by Peter Litwinowicz 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcgRsLuj+kmpYH2jEdy8wwAKlbriPA== Thread-topic: sliders obey sliderMin/Max and ignore parameterMin/Max in FxPlug plug-ins on FCP User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 > > Hi, Ben, > > yes, this is currently a known limitation of Final Cut. We don't > support separate slider / text entry ranges in our sliders. We have > the same issue with our After Effects support, and this limitation is > mentioned in the FxPlug release notes. > > We are aware that many developers would like to see this restriction > removed! > > - Paul What we developers (and all of our users!) REALLY want is to be able to change the min/max *display* in the animation curve view that is independent of the min/max values *allowed*. (This is quite a separate topic from the text input restrictions you propose to remove). When your slider min/max is set to 0 to 30000 (say, for frame # range) and the actual keyframes on the param range from 0 to 100, then it's impossible to for the user to see the shape of the actual curve. Displaying a [0,100]-valued curve over a [0,30000] range makes everything look flat. Pete _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Emile Tobenfeld 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm amazing that more people aren't complaining about this. Micah On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Paul Miller wrote: Micah Sharp Red Giant Software Sign up for our newsletter! http://redgiantsoftware.com/newslettersignup.html -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/emilet%40borisfx.com -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… At 11:13 AM -0500 10/18/07, Paul Miller wrote: Micah Sharp wrote: Paul, this happened to me exactly as you describe and drove me crazy. I finally found a way to move back to QT 7.1.6 and now the problems are all gone. I highly recommend the same (FYI, actually only my MBPro had the problem, G5 was fine for some reason). Thanks Micah. What is the magic sauce needed to let me down-grade? I tried removing the package receipt for 720 and it didn't help. Within the last month or so, anything QuickTime has started crashing on both my Macs, and those of my co-worker. I have 7.2 (the latest, I think). Just trying to launch the PLAYER crashes immediately, and trying to play QuickTime files in FCP crashes FCP. iTunes also crashes immediately. The crashes always happen in com.apple.QuickTime, down in the Audio Manager code, in a std::_Rb_tree<AudioContextProxy *> operation. Anyone seen this, or know why it happens? It's happening on all of our machines, so I'm surprised I can't seem to pull up any discussion on google. I've seen intermittent crashes here, usually in apps I don't normally think of as QT (e,g Synchronize X) -- presumably the app is trying to play a sound. We're running the latest FCP Suite, Adobe CS3, and Avid Media Composer, if that matters. -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com <http://www.fxtech.com> | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com <mailto:Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/micah%40redgiantsoftwar… This email sent to micah(a)redgiantsoftware.com <mailto:micah@redgiantsoftware.com> This email sent to emilet(a)borisfx.com "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!" -- The Red Queen This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Paul Schneider 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Paul, Thanks, - Paul On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Paul Miller wrote: I'm amazing that more people aren't complaining about this. Micah On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Paul Miller wrote: Micah Sharp Red Giant Software Sign up for our newsletter! http://redgiantsoftware.com/newslettersignup.html -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… this is the first I've heard of something like this. Can you send me a crash report and a system profile? Micah Sharp wrote: Paul, this happened to me exactly as you describe and drove me crazy. I finally found a way to move back to QT 7.1.6 and now the problems are all gone. I highly recommend the same (FYI, actually only my MBPro had the problem, G5 was fine for some reason). Thanks Micah. What is the magic sauce needed to let me down-grade? I tried removing the package receipt for 720 and it didn't help. Within the last month or so, anything QuickTime has started crashing on both my Macs, and those of my co-worker. I have 7.2 (the latest, I think). Just trying to launch the PLAYER crashes immediately, and trying to play QuickTime files in FCP crashes FCP. iTunes also crashes immediately. The crashes always happen in com.apple.QuickTime, down in the Audio Manager code, in a std::_Rb_tree<AudioContextProxy *> operation. Anyone seen this, or know why it happens? It's happening on all of our machines, so I'm surprised I can't seem to pull up any discussion on google. We're running the latest FCP Suite, Adobe CS3, and Avid Media Composer, if that matters. -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com <http:// www.fxtech.com> | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com <mailto:Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/micah% 40redgiantsoftware.com This email sent to micah(a)redgiantsoftware.com <mailto:micah@redgiantsoftware.com> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider% 40apple.com This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Paul Miller 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) I'm amazing that more people aren't complaining about this. Micah On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Paul Miller wrote: Micah Sharp Red Giant Software Sign up for our newsletter! http://redgiantsoftware.com/newslettersignup.html -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Micah Sharp wrote: Paul, this happened to me exactly as you describe and drove me crazy. I finally found a way to move back to QT 7.1.6 and now the problems are all gone. I highly recommend the same (FYI, actually only my MBPro had the problem, G5 was fine for some reason). Thanks Micah. What is the magic sauce needed to let me down-grade? I tried removing the package receipt for 720 and it didn't help. Within the last month or so, anything QuickTime has started crashing on both my Macs, and those of my co-worker. I have 7.2 (the latest, I think). Just trying to launch the PLAYER crashes immediately, and trying to play QuickTime files in FCP crashes FCP. iTunes also crashes immediately. The crashes always happen in com.apple.QuickTime, down in the Audio Manager code, in a std::_Rb_tree<AudioContextProxy *> operation. Anyone seen this, or know why it happens? It's happening on all of our machines, so I'm surprised I can't seem to pull up any discussion on google. We're running the latest FCP Suite, Adobe CS3, and Avid Media Composer, if that matters. -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com <http://www.fxtech.com> | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com <mailto:Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/micah%40redgiantsoftwar… This email sent to micah(a)redgiantsoftware.com <mailto:micah@redgiantsoftware.com> This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Micah Sharp 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

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Quicktime crashing constantly - anyone seen this?
by Paul Miller 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Within the last month or so, anything QuickTime has started crashing on both my Macs, and those of my co-worker. I have 7.2 (the latest, I think). Just trying to launch the PLAYER crashes immediately, and trying to play QuickTime files in FCP crashes FCP. iTunes also crashes immediately. The crashes always happen in com.apple.QuickTime, down in the Audio Manager code, in a std::_Rb_tree<AudioContextProxy *> operation. Anyone seen this, or know why it happens? It's happening on all of our machines, so I'm surprised I can't seem to pull up any discussion on google. We're running the latest FCP Suite, Adobe CS3, and Avid Media Composer, if that matters. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Background processes
by Paul Schneider 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

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Re: sliders obey sliderMin/Max and ignore parameterMin/Max in FxPlug plug-ins on FCP
by Paul Schneider 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Ben, - Paul On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Benjamin Kent wrote: Hi, Thanks _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… yes, this is currently a known limitation of Final Cut. We don't support separate slider / text entry ranges in our sliders. We have the same issue with our After Effects support, and this limitation is mentioned in the FxPlug release notes. We are aware that many developers would like to see this restriction removed! It would appear that float sliders only take notice of the sliderMin/Max values in FCP. Values entered in the text box outside of this range (but within the range of the parameterMin/Max values) seem to get clamped to the slider range. Is this correct? Ben _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider% 40apple.com This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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sliders obey sliderMin/Max and ignore parameterMin/Max in FxPlug plug-ins on FCP
by Benjamin Kent 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) Hi, Thanks Ben _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… It would appear that float sliders only take notice of the sliderMin/Max values in FCP. Values entered in the text box outside of this range (but within the range of the parameterMin/Max values) seem to get clamped to the slider range. Is this correct? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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