December 2007 - Pro-apps-dev

Re: Again FCP AE
by Eryk Vershen 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Andreas, -eryk On Dec 10, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi all, Still having problems, here what happens: Having some projects open. Calling the open project list: All projects are listed Double click a project in Finder. Opens in FCP telling me it's from elder version Converts and shows up. Saving with new name. (!!!!!!) Calling the open project list: FCP_AE_Tester: project is not listed our code: project is not listed Any ideas why? Are the projects cached somewhere? Thanks Andreas On 10.12.2007, at 00:39, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 22:02, Michael Miller wrote: Hi Andreas, -Michael On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Thanks Eryk, Kind regards Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 19:43, Eryk Vershen wrote: Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I've tried to reproduce this problem via your procedure, but I can not get the problem to occur. It's somehow good to hear that you don't experience any problems. Could you describe what you add to the projects and how many projects are open? Maybe that could give us some idea what's going wrong here. FWIW we're creating a project at my organization that uses that new AE extensively and we've not seen the problem you describe. Like Eryk pointed out the only time we don't get a project is when it hasn't been initially saved. In our application we're sending things to the bin regularly and can do it multiple times without saving the project in its modified (but having been saved in the past) state. As said the "untitled" stuff is easy to understand as there is "only" a temp file path. The other thing is very hard to reproduce - it happens or doesn't happen (both on my machine and two other machines outside my office). The only random rule we figured out is that this will happen only if the project is modified (i.e. some sequence is added) thru AE. I have no idea what the difference is. I can send you the app under NDA, maybe you see the same thing - maybe not and it's a configuration thing on the machines we used to test the app. But as said the Apple example code and our code do give the same result (still using Tiger). Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project (s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen% 40apple.com This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. 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Re: Again FCP AE
by Andreas Kiel 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all, Still having problems, here what happens: Having some projects open. Calling the open project list: All projects are listed Double click a project in Finder. Opens in FCP telling me it's from elder version Converts and shows up. Saving with new name. (!!!!!!) Calling the open project list: FCP_AE_Tester: project is not listed our code: project is not listed Any ideas why? Are the projects cached somewhere? Thanks Andreas On 10.12.2007, at 00:39, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 22:02, Michael Miller wrote: Hi Andreas, -Michael On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Thanks Eryk, Kind regards Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 19:43, Eryk Vershen wrote: Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… It's somehow good to hear that you don't experience any problems. Could you describe what you add to the projects and how many projects are open? Maybe that could give us some idea what's going wrong here. FWIW we're creating a project at my organization that uses that new AE extensively and we've not seen the problem you describe. Like Eryk pointed out the only time we don't get a project is when it hasn't been initially saved. In our application we're sending things to the bin regularly and can do it multiple times without saving the project in its modified (but having been saved in the past) state. As said the "untitled" stuff is easy to understand as there is "only" a temp file path. The other thing is very hard to reproduce - it happens or doesn't happen (both on my machine and two other machines outside my office). The only random rule we figured out is that this will happen only if the project is modified (i.e. some sequence is added) thru AE. I have no idea what the difference is. I can send you the app under NDA, maybe you see the same thing - maybe not and it's a configuration thing on the machines we used to test the app. But as said the Apple example code and our code do give the same result (still using Tiger). Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project (s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen% 40apple.com This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. 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Re: Again FCP AE
by Andreas Kiel 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Michael, Thanks Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 22:02, Michael Miller wrote: Hi Andreas, -Michael On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Thanks Eryk, Kind regards Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 19:43, Eryk Vershen wrote: Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… It's somehow good to hear that you don't experience any problems. Could you describe what you add to the projects and how many projects are open? Maybe that could give us some idea what's going wrong here. FWIW we're creating a project at my organization that uses that new AE extensively and we've not seen the problem you describe. Like Eryk pointed out the only time we don't get a project is when it hasn't been initially saved. In our application we're sending things to the bin regularly and can do it multiple times without saving the project in its modified (but having been saved in the past) state. As said the "untitled" stuff is easy to understand as there is "only" a temp file path. The other thing is very hard to reproduce - it happens or doesn't happen (both on my machine and two other machines outside my office). The only random rule we figured out is that this will happen only if the project is modified (i.e. some sequence is added) thru AE. I have no idea what the difference is. I can send you the app under NDA, maybe you see the same thing - maybe not and it's a configuration thing on the machines we used to test the app. But as said the Apple example code and our code do give the same result (still using Tiger). Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project (s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen% 40apple.com This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/michaelmiller% 40gmail.com This email sent to michaelmiller(a)gmail.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Again FCP AE
by Michael Miller 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andreas, -Michael On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Thanks Eryk, Kind regards Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 19:43, Eryk Vershen wrote: Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen%40apple.com Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/michaelmiller%40gmail.c… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… FWIW we're creating a project at my organization that uses that new AE extensively and we've not seen the problem you describe. Like Eryk pointed out the only time we don't get a project is when it hasn't been initially saved. In our application we're sending things to the bin regularly and can do it multiple times without saving the project in its modified (but having been saved in the past) state. As said the "untitled" stuff is easy to understand as there is "only" a temp file path. The other thing is very hard to reproduce - it happens or doesn't happen (both on my machine and two other machines outside my office). The only random rule we figured out is that this will happen only if the project is modified (i.e. some sequence is added) thru AE. I have no idea what the difference is. I can send you the app under NDA, maybe you see the same thing - maybe not and it's a configuration thing on the machines we used to test the app. But as said the Apple example code and our code do give the same result (still using Tiger). Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project(s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com This email sent to michaelmiller(a)gmail.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Again FCP AE
by Andreas Kiel 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks Eryk, Kind regards Andreas On 09.12.2007, at 19:43, Eryk Vershen wrote: Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… As said the "untitled" stuff is easy to understand as there is "only" a temp file path. The other thing is very hard to reproduce - it happens or doesn't happen (both on my machine and two other machines outside my office). The only random rule we figured out is that this will happen only if the project is modified (i.e. some sequence is added) thru AE. I have no idea what the difference is. I can send you the app under NDA, maybe you see the same thing - maybe not and it's a configuration thing on the machines we used to test the app. But as said the Apple example code and our code do give the same result (still using Tiger). Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project(s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen% 40apple.com This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Again FCP AE
by Eryk Vershen 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Andreas, -eryk (from my iPhone) On Dec 9, 2007, at 9:57, Andreas Kiel <andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com> wrote: Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Projects that have never been saved to a file will not be reported in the open projects list. This is (in part) because the only way to refer to projects via apple events is with a file path or reference. I have never seen the behavior you describe - i.e. projects "disappearing" from the list. I will do some investigation, but without a repeatable test case there is not a lot I can do. We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project(s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Again FCP AE
by Andreas Kiel 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all, Again a FCP AE question. Has anyone else made the same experience? Thanks Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… We are using the new "kFCPGetAllOpenProjects" call, this works fine sometimes, sometimes not. I haven't found out a rule or whether it's our code or not. It always works when FCP is starting "fresh" with some project(s) and it is always working if things are modified in FCP itself. But it seems that sometimes if the projects are modified by AE they are flagged as "dirty" and not included in the returned list as well as any newly added "untitled projects" - that happens both with the original Apple code and our own. To try, open FCP holding down shift key and run the "FCP_AE_Tester" - though there is an "Untitled Project 1" there is no feedback, which is understandable as there is no "secure" saved path where the project can be found. But randomly - or maybe following some rules - also "real" project paths disappear from the list. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Forcing redraw on custom param pushbutton in FCP FxPlug plug-in whenever the frame is changed
by Benjamin Kent 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) Hi Darrin, Cheers Ben The Foundry Visionmongers Ltd • Registered in England and Wales No: 4642027 On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Benjamin Kent wrote: Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com <mailto:dcardani@apple.com> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Sorry, it's taken me a while to try out your timer idea - seems to work okay as far as getting the timer to force a redraw on the custom parameter UI. The only problem is that when you shift along the timeline to a previously cached frame, [actionAPI currentTime] doesn't return the correct time - it seems to just return the last time the effect did any processing. So for example, go to frame n, let the effect process, shift to frame n+1, let the effect process, then go back to frame n, currentTime still returns n+1. Any way to force it to update the time? Ben Kent, Senior Software Engineer The Foundry, 1 Wardour Street, London, W1D 6PA, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 7434 0449 • Fax: +44 (0)20 7434 1550 • Web: www.thefoundry.co.uk Darrin Cardani wrote: My plug-in requires an animatable bool parameter (representing the validity of a frame at given time). So a user will set a single frame X as invalid, but all other frames should still be valid. This action really requires setting a value of false at frame X and a value of true at X-1 and X+1 all in one go (otherwise when setting a value of false at X, all other frame values would also be set to false). On other hosts this is either done with a pushbutton which sets the three key frames on an animatable bool or an animatable integer parameter, but as it isn't possible for a plug-in to create keyframes on a parameter in FCP, this was a way around it (using an internal data structure to store the key frame information and a pushbutton check box to display the boolean value at a given frame to the user). I'm sorry, I still don't understand the interaction you're describing. This all sounds very bizarre to me. But to answer your original question, about redrawing your button, here's one method that I can think of. (I don't think this would be the ideal solution, though.) You could set up an NSTimer to call back into your plugin periodically. In your timer callback, you could call -startAction:, followed by -currentTime: to check if the current time is the same time as the last time you redrew your UI. If it's not, then you could call -setNeedsDisplay: on your button, and the OS will tell it to redraw. Then, of course, call -endAction. In your -drawRect: method, get the current time and save it for the next time your callback gets called. It sounds like what you really want, though, is a way to set keyframes on check boxes. You're not the only person who wants that, so it's possible we might add that functionality in the future. (That's not a guarantee, though! :) ) I'm still not getting why you need to set keyframes on the previous and next frame, though. It doesn't sound like something a typical user would understand, either. Would it be better to have your own timeline in your custom control? (Again, not a perfect solution, but a workable one.) Then you could have it do anything you wanted with keyframes, and it would at least be familiar to users what was happening. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Another FCP AE
by Andreas Kiel 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks Helena, Many thanks Andreas On 07.12.2007, at 02:33, Helena Ju wrote: Hi Andreas! Is this the behavior you're expecting? Or something different? Cheers, Helena On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi all, Thanks Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/hju%40apple.com Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Pete told me some time ago that this would not work and so I asked again. Now I tried it step by step again and indeed it works. There was an error in my code which caused my app not to wait (try) long enough i.e. until xml import has finished. I'm a little confused. When you pass FCP a valid UUID in XML, and tell us to add a item with that UUID, we use the one you provide. Here's how I tested it out: 1. make a new sequence 2. export XML for that sequence (it had <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A510</uuid> 3. taking XML, I modified the uuid to <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A511</uuid> (since it by default has the updatebehavior to add I didn't touch that) 4. import modified XML 5. export XML for both sequences I see that I have two sequences with the following two uuids: <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A510</uuid> <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A511</uuid> So I could then send an Apple Event to open either the original or the modified sequence. I know I've asked that some time ago, but maybe something has changed and I did miss it. Using FCP AE I can read a project into my app select a sequence (or get a modified version XML live). If I modify the sequence and send it back to the FCP project I could add a new UUID to it. But obviously FCP is still creating it's own UUIDs during import and so I can't use the "kFCPOpenItemInProject" as I don't know the UUID. The only option I currently see is to send two sequences: the original one with an "add" flag (so I forget the UUID) and the new one with a "replace" and the same UUID as the original one. I haven't tested that and I hope there is an easier way. P.S. Sure I can get the complete project in again, but that wouldn't be helpful at all. This email sent to hju(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Another FCP AE
by Helena Ju 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andreas! Here's how I tested it out: 1. make a new sequence 2. export XML for that sequence (it had <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A510</uuid> 3. taking XML, I modified the uuid to <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A511</uuid> (since it by default has the updatebehavior to add I didn't touch that) 4. import modified XML 5. export XML for both sequences I see that I have two sequences with the following two uuids: <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A510</uuid> <uuid>60DE7A38-9997-41B7-8F4C-51C5B115A511</uuid> Is this the behavior you're expecting? Or something different? Cheers, Helena On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi all, Thanks Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/hju%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I'm a little confused. When you pass FCP a valid UUID in XML, and tell us to add a item with that UUID, we use the one you provide. So I could then send an Apple Event to open either the original or the modified sequence. I know I've asked that some time ago, but maybe something has changed and I did miss it. Using FCP AE I can read a project into my app select a sequence (or get a modified version XML live). If I modify the sequence and send it back to the FCP project I could add a new UUID to it. But obviously FCP is still creating it's own UUIDs during import and so I can't use the "kFCPOpenItemInProject" as I don't know the UUID. The only option I currently see is to send two sequences: the original one with an "add" flag (so I forget the UUID) and the new one with a "replace" and the same UUID as the original one. I haven't tested that and I hope there is an easier way. P.S. Sure I can get the complete project in again, but that wouldn't be helpful at all. This email sent to hju(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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