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Re: Point parameters when applied to shape layers
by Darrin Cardani 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Darrin On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Garrick Meeker wrote: get point: -0.567039 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.013514 0.981308 0.395413 0.395413 361 257 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.395413 0.395413 361 257 get point: -0.297297 1.172414 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.031250 0.958333 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.530316 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.536723 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.530316 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.536723 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.263399 1.172414 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.065148 0.958333 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Garrick Meeker wrote: Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Garrick, That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The .39... scale is because it's drawing a preview either in the timeline, the layer list, or the inspector window. But I don't see any reason why the point parameter would change its value. Looking at the filters that ship with Motion, Fisheye and Droplet have point parameters that seem to work as expected. Are you getting back a valid value for the FxParameterRetrievalAPI object? Here's my printf's showing x and y from getXValue, x and y scale, width, and height. The odd lines are from renderOutput and the even lines (that around about 0.5) are from inside frameCleanup. It's applied to a simple rectangle shape that covers about half of a DV frame. Does this make any sense? I seem to be getting inconsistent and bogus values from getXValue when my FxPlug filter is applied to a shape layer in Motion 3. Has anyone seen this? I don't have time to make a simpler test case right now. Can you elaborate on how they are "inconsistent and bogus?" In what way are they different from what you expect? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Point parameters when applied to shape layers
by Garrick Meeker 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com get point: -0.567039 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.013514 0.981308 0.395413 0.395413 361 257 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.395413 0.395413 361 257 get point: -0.297297 1.172414 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.031250 0.958333 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.567039 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.500000 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.530316 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.536723 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.530316 1.398437 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.536723 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.533141 1.398438 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 1.000000 1.000000 358 256 get point: -0.263399 1.172414 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 0.077779 0.077779 475 372 get point: 0.065148 0.958333 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 get point: 0.533898 0.500000 0.158203 0.158203 379 271 On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Garrick Meeker wrote: Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Here's my printf's showing x and y from getXValue, x and y scale, width, and height. The odd lines are from renderOutput and the even lines (that around about 0.5) are from inside frameCleanup. It's applied to a simple rectangle shape that covers about half of a DV frame. Does this make any sense? I seem to be getting inconsistent and bogus values from getXValue when my FxPlug filter is applied to a shape layer in Motion 3. Has anyone seen this? I don't have time to make a simpler test case right now. Can you elaborate on how they are "inconsistent and bogus?" In what way are they different from what you expect? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Point parameters when applied to shape layers
by Darrin Cardani 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Garrick Meeker wrote: Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I seem to be getting inconsistent and bogus values from getXValue when my FxPlug filter is applied to a shape layer in Motion 3. Has anyone seen this? I don't have time to make a simpler test case right now. Can you elaborate on how they are "inconsistent and bogus?" In what way are they different from what you expect? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Point parameters when applied to shape layers
by Garrick Meeker 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I seem to be getting inconsistent and bogus values from getXValue when my FxPlug filter is applied to a shape layer in Motion 3. Has anyone seen this? I don't have time to make a simpler test case right now. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Forcing a render in response to custom parameter push buttons
by Garrick Meeker 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Figured it out. I wasn't using the action API. On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Garrick Meeker wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Steve Christensen wrote: Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/garrick%40digitalanarch… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/garrick%40digitalanarch… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Okay, this thread is bit old but I've been trying to support Motion better and I'm running into the bug with Motion not re-rendering after changing custom parameter data. However, changing a hidden boolean doesn't work either. I can't seem to change the value from the NSButton callback (the view for my custom parameter), which is confirmed when I don't hide it. Does anyone have this working in Motion? So, I tried playing with parameters to get Motion to re-render but no joy. I have a modal configuration panel that I display in response to clicking on a button. Just curious - what is the advantage of using a modal dialog over, say, a custom control (or set of controls)? It seems like you're trying to force the user into a particular workflow, and that's generally a bad idea. But without more info, it's hard to say. (If you don't want to reveal what you're doing publicly, feel free to send email to <proappsdk(a)group.apple.com> and only people within Apple will see it.) When the user chooses OK, I stop the modal event loop, then do the following: [paramActionAPI startAction:self]; gRenderWhackerValue = !gRenderWhackerValue; [setParamAPI setCustomParameterValue:[NSNumber numberWithBool:gRenderWhackerValue] toParm:kParameterIDConfigButton]; [setParamAPI setBoolValue:gRenderWhackerValue toParm:kParameterIDHiddenRenderWhacker atTime:[paramActionAPI currentTime]]; [paramActionAPI endAction:self]; I tried having both the custom parameter (the button) and a hidden boolean parameter to try to cover all bases in working around the Motion bug Darrin mentioned. I put a NSLog call in the method that handles my OK button as well as -frameSetup:hardware:, - frameCleanup and -renderOutput:withInfo:. When I click OK, I see that the OK method is called, but nothing after that. Any further pearls of wisdom? What you have above looks correct. Would it be possible to send me a copy of the plugin to see what's going on in Motion when your filter changes a parameter? (You can email it directly to me if you want.) This email sent to garrick(a)digitalanarchy.com This email sent to garrick(a)digitalanarchy.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Forcing a render in response to custom parameter push buttons
by Garrick Meeker 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 27, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Steve Christensen wrote: Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/garrick%40digitalanarch… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Okay, this thread is bit old but I've been trying to support Motion better and I'm running into the bug with Motion not re-rendering after changing custom parameter data. However, changing a hidden boolean doesn't work either. I can't seem to change the value from the NSButton callback (the view for my custom parameter), which is confirmed when I don't hide it. Does anyone have this working in Motion? So, I tried playing with parameters to get Motion to re-render but no joy. I have a modal configuration panel that I display in response to clicking on a button. Just curious - what is the advantage of using a modal dialog over, say, a custom control (or set of controls)? It seems like you're trying to force the user into a particular workflow, and that's generally a bad idea. But without more info, it's hard to say. (If you don't want to reveal what you're doing publicly, feel free to send email to <proappsdk(a)group.apple.com> and only people within Apple will see it.) When the user chooses OK, I stop the modal event loop, then do the following: [paramActionAPI startAction:self]; gRenderWhackerValue = !gRenderWhackerValue; [setParamAPI setCustomParameterValue:[NSNumber numberWithBool:gRenderWhackerValue] toParm:kParameterIDConfigButton]; [setParamAPI setBoolValue:gRenderWhackerValue toParm:kParameterIDHiddenRenderWhacker atTime:[paramActionAPI currentTime]]; [paramActionAPI endAction:self]; I tried having both the custom parameter (the button) and a hidden boolean parameter to try to cover all bases in working around the Motion bug Darrin mentioned. I put a NSLog call in the method that handles my OK button as well as -frameSetup:hardware:, - frameCleanup and -renderOutput:withInfo:. When I click OK, I see that the OK method is called, but nothing after that. Any further pearls of wisdom? What you have above looks correct. Would it be possible to send me a copy of the plugin to see what's going on in Motion when your filter changes a parameter? (You can email it directly to me if you want.) This email sent to garrick(a)digitalanarchy.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Compressor flags for chapterized .m4v
by Piers Goodhew 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com To quote Phil Hodgetts on another list this morning: PG On 27/08/2008, at 11:50 AM, Frank Jonen wrote: Hey everybody, Did anyone encounter the same issue an maybe has a solution for it? cheers, Frank _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/piers.goodhew%40support… Piers Goodhew Technical Application Engineer. Support Partners (Australia) Pty Ltd Suite 2, Level 9 100 Walker Street North Sydney NSW 2060 Australia DDI: +61 (0) 2 8022 8304 Mobile: +61 (0) 420 976 793 Fax: +61 (0) 2 90371994 ABN: 49 123 002 497 www.support-partners.com piers.goodhew(a)support-partners.com ============================================ Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Support Partners. Any prices for the supply of goods or services are only valid if supported by a formal written quotation. All services and products sold by us or supplied to us by a third party are subject to Support Partners terms and conditions. A copy of those terms and conditions are available on request. Further communication will signify your consent to this. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of viruses, no responsibility is accepted by Support Partners. for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Support Partners. are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. In this event, please notify us via e-mail at 'mail(a)support-partners.com' and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Further communication will signify your consent to this. E&OE. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… "There's not yet (afaik) an easy way to do mp4 chapter markers other than in Garageband." since a while I'm trying to get the same results as the titles in the iTunes Movie section. I set the chapter markers with images in Compressor, also tried using the Podcast markers. Then select h.264 based outputs and... no chapters. Also I didn't see any specialized menus there, even checked in the manual. Since Apple usually takes pride in using their own apps I get the feeling I'm doing something wrong here. This email sent to piers.goodhew(a)support-partners.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Compressor flags for chapterized .m4v
by Frank Jonen 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

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Re: releasing temporal frames
by Micah Sharp 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

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Re: releasing temporal frames
by Paul Schneider 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Micah, Final Cut is still a 32-bit app, so we have about a 4GB address limit. - Paul On Aug 26, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Micah Sharp wrote: Thanks, Micah _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… we had this problem in previous versions of Final Cut, but it was fixed in 6.0.2 (I believe). If you call [yourImage release], the memory for the image should be freed up right then and there. Hi, I recall a while back it was confirmed that when getting temporal frames inside the render method of an FxPlug, the images are not released until the end of the render method, causing crashing eventually if you get too many frames in a row. We do have a plug-in that needs to do this on a lot of frames, and we are seeing crashing with HD sized images, and attempts to get anything over about 10 seconds worth of frames. The machine had 5 GB of RAM, and I think the un-released memory must be about 2.8GB or so. What is the threshold then? We have users with 16GB of memory on their machines seeing the same problem. Is it just a fixed ceiling, or is it related to memory on the user's machine? Is it truly running out of memory and just crashing (pretty sure we check for a null result, etc)? Final question, is there a bug filed against this. Nice problem to not have... This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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