January 2009 - Pro-apps-dev

Where is this warning message coming from?
by Brad Wright 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Brad Wright _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I'm getting an error message with my plug-ins from Final Cut saying that the effect failed to render, because the hardware cannot render at the requested size and depth. My sequence settings video processing is set to "Render all YUV material in high-precision YUV". My plug-in is supporting R4FL, as well as, all the other rendering formats. I'm rendering in hardware only in the plug-in. If I switch back to, "Render in 8-bit YUV" the message goes away. Why is this message happening? I'm using a MacPro with an ATI Radeon HD 2600. I'm performing the rendering in Core Image. Why is Final Cut giving me this error message? The graphics card should be able to support higher than 8 bit rendering, right? I'm using the latest version of FCP, 6.05. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Motion Template XML Export Quandry
by Gregory Clarke 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hey gang, Cheers, Greg. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… All generators, including motion templates, when dragged to the browser have no XML representation since they aren't clips, but instead, short-cuts to an effect. That makes perfect sense. And FCP is smart enough to know that if it is dragged into the Browser, and you select the generator, it won't let the user export it (Export XML is grayed out). Unfortunately if the user selects the clip's container (its bin, or the whole project) then the export is allowed to happen with the "empty" XML for the generator. I understand the difference, but to most users it wouldn't make sense. I've rewritten our help doc with explicit instructions on adding a Motion Template through the Viewer. What would you expect the XML to be? Perhaps a new kind of bin entity much like an effect definition on a clip? As long as it had enough information in the XML to recreate the generator item on import, that'd be perfect! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reconnecting to modified media
by Ky Hopwood 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com David Thanks Andreas, Thanks, - David On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hello, Andreas Kiel On 13.01.2009, at 18:58, David Heidelberger wrote: Hello all, Thanks, - David Heidelberger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/kiel%40spherico.com Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/khopwood%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… It sounds as if you have edited the original media, including the audio tracks that you don't desire and going to be tossing away. If you just imported the old media or only edited the video tracks ( or the tracks that are going to be in the new media ), then you should not get an error. If however you have used all of your tracks, then I would expect for this error to happen. By the way, the Log and Transfer input settings don't allow you to configure to only import the tracks you wish on your camera? That is likely too obvious, but I thought to ask just in case that was overlooked. Assuming it doesn't, just do the following ( before editing) : 1/ transfer media 2/ use your tool to strip the unused tracks 3/ reconnect to the new media. In that scenario, assuming that they were stripped properly, then it should work. I appreciate the thoughts. I realize it's not truly deleting audio. It's not really to free up space, it's more a convenience so that when the assistant editor accidentally digitizes 16 audio tracks over SDI or whatever, you don't have to continually disable 14 of them or waste time redigitizing. Since it's really for convenience, I was trying to make a simple, free utility so that you don't have to shell out 400 euros for MXF4QT (although I hear it's pretty fantastic, I may have to look into it for other uses). Also, since it's for correcting mistakes after-the-fact, it's designed for a user who hasn't captured audio and video separately (I don't think I've ever met anyone who does that). Anyway, still looking for thoughts on that error message. I don't know what your utility does but just deleting an audio track not really removes the track - it just removes the internal QT reference. Just look at the file size before and after. But you can create a new referenced movie that only contains video for example. With P2 you can use the mxf4mac component and you'll never get this problem again as with this component P2 files/tracks are kept as the are - discreet files. Another option is to capture audio video to different locations. This will allow you to delete the audio from the QT file in a way you described since the audio is only a reference within the QT file and Final Cut will re-connect correctly. Sometimes in Final Cut, particularly with newer hard-disk cameras, you can wind up mistakenly digitizing or log-and-transferring media with way more audio tracks than you need. It can become a hassle to constantly be disabling audio tracks while you're editing, so I wrote a little utility program that can strip out excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies, basically batching the same functionality you get when you go into the properties window in Quicktime Pro and delete tracks by hand. For a while, this was fine. You could delete the audio tracks and Final Cut would make the media offline. When you reconnected, it would give you a warning about not being able to find all the tracks, but would reconnect to the media no problem. Somewhere around either 6.0.2 or 6.0.4, something changed and now when I reconnect the media, after going through the warning in the reconnect files window and hitting "Connect," I get this message: "The file does not have enough audio tracks to reconnect to '0003RG' at time 08:59:10;14 in sequence '0003RG'. Click 'OK' to make this item independent and go to the next clip or 'Cancel' to skip all clips from this file." This is using P2 media, and the timecode is the media start time of the clip. Trouble is, neither option seems to do anything. Cancel just cancels out. And hitting okay leaves the clip offline. I've figured out a semi-workaround using Batch Lists and/or XML, but that complicates what was a very simple utility. I guess I don't really have a question, but I'm wondering what should happen if I click "OK" in that dialogue box? Shouldn't it reconnect to my media, but make it a new, independent clip? Since it doesn't, is that a bug? Also, as an aside note, I think Final Cut should be a bit more flexible about missing audio tracks, like it used to be. This email sent to kiel(a)spherico.com This email sent to khopwood(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Is VANC metadata preserved?
by Michael Miller 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

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Re: Reconnecting to modified media
by David Heidelberger 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks Andreas, Thanks, - David On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hello, Andreas Kiel On 13.01.2009, at 18:58, David Heidelberger wrote: Hello all, Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I appreciate the thoughts. I realize it's not truly deleting audio. It's not really to free up space, it's more a convenience so that when the assistant editor accidentally digitizes 16 audio tracks over SDI or whatever, you don't have to continually disable 14 of them or waste time redigitizing. Since it's really for convenience, I was trying to make a simple, free utility so that you don't have to shell out 400 euros for MXF4QT (although I hear it's pretty fantastic, I may have to look into it for other uses). Also, since it's for correcting mistakes after-the-fact, it's designed for a user who hasn't captured audio and video separately (I don't think I've ever met anyone who does that). Anyway, still looking for thoughts on that error message. I don't know what your utility does but just deleting an audio track not really removes the track - it just removes the internal QT reference. Just look at the file size before and after. But you can create a new referenced movie that only contains video for example. With P2 you can use the mxf4mac component and you'll never get this problem again as with this component P2 files/tracks are kept as the are - discreet files. Another option is to capture audio video to different locations. This will allow you to delete the audio from the QT file in a way you described since the audio is only a reference within the QT file and Final Cut will re-connect correctly. Sometimes in Final Cut, particularly with newer hard-disk cameras, you can wind up mistakenly digitizing or log-and-transferring media with way more audio tracks than you need. It can become a hassle to constantly be disabling audio tracks while you're editing, so I wrote a little utility program that can strip out excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies, basically batching the same functionality you get when you go into the properties window in Quicktime Pro and delete tracks by hand. For a while, this was fine. You could delete the audio tracks and Final Cut would make the media offline. When you reconnected, it would give you a warning about not being able to find all the tracks, but would reconnect to the media no problem. Somewhere around either 6.0.2 or 6.0.4, something changed and now when I reconnect the media, after going through the warning in the reconnect files window and hitting "Connect," I get this message: "The file does not have enough audio tracks to reconnect to '0003RG' at time 08:59:10;14 in sequence '0003RG'. Click 'OK' to make this item independent and go to the next clip or 'Cancel' to skip all clips from this file." This is using P2 media, and the timecode is the media start time of the clip. Trouble is, neither option seems to do anything. Cancel just cancels out. And hitting okay leaves the clip offline. I've figured out a semi-workaround using Batch Lists and/or XML, but that complicates what was a very simple utility. I guess I don't really have a question, but I'm wondering what should happen if I click "OK" in that dialogue box? Shouldn't it reconnect to my media, but make it a new, independent clip? Since it doesn't, is that a bug? Also, as an aside note, I think Final Cut should be a bit more flexible about missing audio tracks, like it used to be. Thanks, - David Heidelberger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/kiel% 40spherico.com This email sent to kiel(a)spherico.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reconnecting to modified media
by Andreas Kiel 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, Andreas Kiel On 13.01.2009, at 18:58, David Heidelberger wrote: Hello all, Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I don't know what your utility does but just deleting an audio track not really removes the track - it just removes the internal QT reference. Just look at the file size before and after. But you can create a new referenced movie that only contains video for example. With P2 you can use the mxf4mac component and you'll never get this problem again as with this component P2 files/tracks are kept as the are - discreet files. Another option is to capture audio video to different locations. This will allow you to delete the audio from the QT file in a way you described since the audio is only a reference within the QT file and Final Cut will re-connect correctly. Sometimes in Final Cut, particularly with newer hard-disk cameras, you can wind up mistakenly digitizing or log-and-transferring media with way more audio tracks than you need. It can become a hassle to constantly be disabling audio tracks while you're editing, so I wrote a little utility program that can strip out excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies, basically batching the same functionality you get when you go into the properties window in Quicktime Pro and delete tracks by hand. For a while, this was fine. You could delete the audio tracks and Final Cut would make the media offline. When you reconnected, it would give you a warning about not being able to find all the tracks, but would reconnect to the media no problem. Somewhere around either 6.0.2 or 6.0.4, something changed and now when I reconnect the media, after going through the warning in the reconnect files window and hitting "Connect," I get this message: "The file does not have enough audio tracks to reconnect to '0003RG' at time 08:59:10;14 in sequence '0003RG'. Click 'OK' to make this item independent and go to the next clip or 'Cancel' to skip all clips from this file." This is using P2 media, and the timecode is the media start time of the clip. Trouble is, neither option seems to do anything. Cancel just cancels out. And hitting okay leaves the clip offline. I've figured out a semi-workaround using Batch Lists and/or XML, but that complicates what was a very simple utility. I guess I don't really have a question, but I'm wondering what should happen if I click "OK" in that dialogue box? Shouldn't it reconnect to my media, but make it a new, independent clip? Since it doesn't, is that a bug? Also, as an aside note, I think Final Cut should be a bit more flexible about missing audio tracks, like it used to be. Thanks, - David Heidelberger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/kiel% 40spherico.com This email sent to kiel(a)spherico.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Reconnecting to modified media
by David Heidelberger 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello all, Thanks, - David Heidelberger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Sometimes in Final Cut, particularly with newer hard-disk cameras, you can wind up mistakenly digitizing or log-and-transferring media with way more audio tracks than you need. It can become a hassle to constantly be disabling audio tracks while you're editing, so I wrote a little utility program that can strip out excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies, basically batching the same functionality you get when you go into the properties window in Quicktime Pro and delete tracks by hand. For a while, this was fine. You could delete the audio tracks and Final Cut would make the media offline. When you reconnected, it would give you a warning about not being able to find all the tracks, but would reconnect to the media no problem. Somewhere around either 6.0.2 or 6.0.4, something changed and now when I reconnect the media, after going through the warning in the reconnect files window and hitting "Connect," I get this message: "The file does not have enough audio tracks to reconnect to '0003RG' at time 08:59:10;14 in sequence '0003RG'. Click 'OK' to make this item independent and go to the next clip or 'Cancel' to skip all clips from this file." This is using P2 media, and the timecode is the media start time of the clip. Trouble is, neither option seems to do anything. Cancel just cancels out. And hitting okay leaves the clip offline. I've figured out a semi-workaround using Batch Lists and/or XML, but that complicates what was a very simple utility. I guess I don't really have a question, but I'm wondering what should happen if I click "OK" in that dialogue box? Shouldn't it reconnect to my media, but make it a new, independent clip? Since it doesn't, is that a bug? Also, as an aside note, I think Final Cut should be a bit more flexible about missing audio tracks, like it used to be. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FCP Export plug-in API, or any documentation at all?
by Mark Boszko 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

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Re: FCP Export plug-in API, or any documentation at all?
by Andreas Kiel 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

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Re: FCP Export plug-in API, or any documentation at all?
by Darrin Cardani 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

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