February 2010 - Pro-apps-dev

Re: Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Helena Ju 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

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Re: Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Jon Chappell 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

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Re: Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Tim Jones 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Helena Ju wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Logic doesn't have any developers on this mailing list so for that question maybe asking it on coreaudio-api mailing list might work better? Just a guess. Thanks for the pointer. I made a bad assumption that the Pro Apps list name implied all of them, but Logic really doesn't apply here. > As for FCP, are you looking for all the media files or project files? and when you say 'session' do you mean, in a project? or something else? Sorry, I'm old school and a project is a session to me - I should probably update my mindset :-) . We're looking to determine the media files within the project. > We don't have an API for reading this data apart from within FCP, but one can get all the media files from a FCP project with that project open in FCP, even if the media is offline. For short term, that might be an answer. Is this via AppleEvent, or can it be easily AppleScripted? It would be great if we could simply provide a scriptlet that the engineer/editor (or intern as in most cases :-) ) could drop into the Scripts folder and then execute to export the list when they send the project file for auditing. For the long term, the predicament is that the user may need to retrieve this info on a system that has no access to the media files (which presents lots of errors if the project is opened in FCP) or on a system where FCP isn't even available. In a scenario where we can get the project file in XML format, this isn't a problem, but the clients don't always have the luxury of requesting the project in XML format. Any chance of a feature request making it into the mix near-term? Thanks, Tim _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Helena Ju 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Tim, Logic doesn't have any developers on this mailing list so for that question maybe asking it on coreaudio-api mailing list might work better? Just a guess. As for FCP, are you looking for all the media files or project files? and when you say 'session' do you mean, in a project? or something else? We don't have an API for reading this data apart from within FCP, but one can get all the media files from a FCP project with that project open in FCP, even if the media is offline. Best Luck, Helena (Ps sorry for the repeat email, I should have reply-all-ed) On 2010-02-15, at 8:52 AM, Tim Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been digging through the Application SDK, but haven't found an answer to this. > > Is there an API that will allow me to examine the FCP and Logic session files to draw out the list of files within the session without actually opening FCP / Logic? > > I don't need any other information from the session files. Exporting to XML is not a good solution here as the user may be an intermediary without direct access to the physical files, so opening FCP / Logic will fail. > > Thanks for any pointers. > Tim > -- > Tim Jones > tolistim(a)me.com > > All this fresh snow - and I'm out of flavored syrup... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/hju%40apple.com > > This email sent to hju(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Paul Schneider 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Tim, The FCP project file format is not public, nor is there any API to let you parse the project file. We intend for people to use XML for things like that. - Paul On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Tim Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been digging through the Application SDK, but haven't found an answer to this. > > Is there an API that will allow me to examine the FCP and Logic session files to draw out the list of files within the session without actually opening FCP / Logic? > > I don't need any other information from the session files. Exporting to XML is not a good solution here as the user may be an intermediary without direct access to the physical files, so opening FCP / Logic will fail. > > Thanks for any pointers. > Tim > -- > Tim Jones > tolistim(a)me.com > > All this fresh snow - and I'm out of flavored syrup... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider%40apple.com > > This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Determining physical files in Final Cut and Logic session files
by Tim Jones 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi All, I've been digging through the Application SDK, but haven't found an answer to this. Is there an API that will allow me to examine the FCP and Logic session files to draw out the list of files within the session without actually opening FCP / Logic? I don't need any other information from the session files. Exporting to XML is not a good solution here as the user may be an intermediary without direct access to the physical files, so opening FCP / Logic will fail. Thanks for any pointers. Tim -- Tim Jones tolistim(a)me.com All this fresh snow - and I'm out of flavored syrup... _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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<subframeoffset> values
by Gregory Clarke 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Just need a quick clarification on acceptable values for the subframeoffset XML interchange tag. The XML spec doesn't say explicitly, but the Final Cut Pro manual explains that subframeoffset is in 1/100th of a frame increments. Can I assume that the values for the subframeoffset tag are integers between -99 and 99? Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Audio NTSC flag in Final Cut Pro
by Tony Huet 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Darrin Cardani wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Tony Huet wrote: > >> It's funny that in 2010 we're revisiting many of the same audio/video issues that have plagued movie-making since it's inception. > > > I concur, but we have to support a lot of different formats, hardware, and odd engineering decisions that our industry made over the last century. Making all the options accessible to users is a challenge, and if you have suggestions for making it easier/better, please let us know by filing enhancement requests or bug reports: > > <http://bugreporter.apple.com/> > > I cannot tell you how elated I would be to never have to deal with, for example, non-square pixels ever again. But alas, I do still have to deal with them. Darrin, I hope you did not take my comments to mean anything negative about any of the ProApps. I just meant that any time audio and video are recorded separately by two different devices (and sometimes even by the same device) there will always be sync issues. It was really just more of a comment about how some things never change, regardless of technology. And Helena - thanks for the pointers on the undo cache over-riding current settings. Very good info to know. I think it explains some things I've run into that I could never figure out. Great to know Bruce's instructions are a more bullet-proof way to go. Using a Canon 5D to shoot video has taken me back to the 'olden' days of film in a way. It's been a lot of fun to revisit old techniques. Tony _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Audio NTSC flag in Final Cut Pro
by Peter Litwinowicz 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

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Re: Audio NTSC flag in Final Cut Pro
by Helena Ju 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

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