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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Rainer Standke 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com In my opinion it is very important to be able to get to the source file of the effect source, at the very least when and if the effect is sitting directly on footage. The same goes for timing info relative to the effect and to the footage item. Rainer On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:03, Darrin Cardani wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > >>> Even if we added that, users still want to be able to create Motion >>> templates with your plug-ins, so they need to work properly in that >>> case, anyway. >> >> The Motion templates are nifty and all, but when applying them in FCPX, they should at least report correct information about the clips they are applied to. >> >> Maybe I'm missing something/not thinking different enough, but this seems like a really really bizarre design choice. > > I don't recall every nuance of the design decisions off the top of my head, but keep in mind that your plug-in may not be applied directly to footage. The effect source could be inside a group, with the filter applied to the group, or it could be that the effect source is the source for an emitter or replicator, and the effect is applied to the emitter or replicator instead. This complicates things a little bit. > > Darrin > -- > Darrin Cardani > dcardani(a)apple.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/lists%40standke.com > > This email sent to lists(a)standke.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Darrin Cardani 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Paul Miller wrote: >> Even if we added that, users still want to be able to create Motion >> templates with your plug-ins, so they need to work properly in that >> case, anyway. > > The Motion templates are nifty and all, but when applying them in FCPX, they should at least report correct information about the clips they are applied to. > > Maybe I'm missing something/not thinking different enough, but this seems like a really really bizarre design choice. I don't recall every nuance of the design decisions off the top of my head, but keep in mind that your plug-in may not be applied directly to footage. The effect source could be inside a group, with the filter applied to the group, or it could be that the effect source is the source for an emitter or replicator, and the effect is applied to the emitter or replicator instead. This complicates things a little bit. Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Darrin Cardani 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Patrick Sheffield 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Christoph Vonrhein 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Alex Gollner 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcxFaqe+wviK4Ybsd0yF0eYKTII8PA== Thread-topic: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 On 18/07/2011 5:06 pm, Darrin Cardani wrote in response to Martin Baker: >> 2. The returned durationForEffect value is fixed at the duration of the >> .moef, regardless of the duration of the clip on the FCPX timeline. This >> makes it impossible to backtime FxPlug animation from the end of the clip. So >> a 300 frame .moef will always show up in FCPX as 300 frames duration. > > Correct. Your effect is not applied to the footage in FCP. It is applied to > the drop zone (effect source) in Motion. This implies that the standard publishing method for backtimed animation in a .moef is after a Build Out marker. Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Paul Miller 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 Even if we added that, users still want to be able to create Motion templates with your plug-ins, so they need to work properly in that case, anyway. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… The Motion templates are nifty and all, but when applying them in FCPX, they should at least report correct information about the clips they are applied to. Maybe I'm missing something/not thinking different enough, but this seems like a really really bizarre design choice. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Darrin Cardani 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Christoph Vonrhein 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

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Re: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef
by Peter Litwinowicz 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-topic: Wrapping FxPlugs in .moef User-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.12.0.110505 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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