August 2011 - Pro-apps-dev - lists.apple.com

Point controls, parameter groups, and templates (oh my!)
by Paul Miller 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 Suggestions? Thoughts? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… After spending today getting a basic FxPlup up and running in the Motion/FCPX "environment" a couple of things jumped out: 1. there doesn't appear to be any way to edit point controls in FCPX interactively - all I see are type-in numbers and sliders. Is there a button or overlay I'm missing so I can just drag the point around? 2. I can't publish groups to FCPX. This makes it kind of confusing if I have a slider called "Amount" in the "Blur" group - it only shows up as Amount. Amount for what? This is likely to confuse users. But I hesitate to rename the slider as "Blur Amount" though since the "Blur" is redundant back in Motion (and FCP 7), where it sits happily inside the Blur group. I realize having groups of parameters may also confuse users, but having overly verbose parameter names could annoy other users (and me). I remember back when earlier FCP versions didn't have groups and I had to prefix everything with the group names. But now FCP 7 (and Motion) support them and I'll have to add a bunch of messy code to make it work both ways. 3. on the whole template resolution issue, is the current recommendation to make templates at 1080P still the "right" one? Most of my effects are CPU based, and I don't like the idea of having the source footage always uprezzed to 1080P and processed at that size, if the source footage is only 720P or even wide DV. Adding multiple templates at different common resolutions is likely to confuse users. Having my effects take twice as long to render as they should is likely to annoy them. And then they'll rant that my effects are "slow", which annoys me. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: publishing multiple parameters at once?
by Darrin Cardani 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > Is it possible to publish multiple parameters in one step? I noticed that I can select several parameters by cmd+clicking on them, so I expected that right clicking on one and selecting Publish would publish all of them, but that didn't work. > > Am I really expected to go down the list one by one, publishing each one at a time? No there's currently no way to do this. You need to publish them one at a time. Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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publishing multiple parameters at once?
by Paul Miller 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Is it possible to publish multiple parameters in one step? I noticed that I can select several parameters by cmd+clicking on them, so I expected that right clicking on one and selecting Publish would publish all of them, but that didn't work. Am I really expected to go down the list one by one, publishing each one at a time? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping 32-bit FxPlugs from showing up in Motion 5?
by Darrin Cardani 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Yeah, it should, but it doesn't, unfortunately. Feel free to file a bug! Darrin On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Paul Miller wrote: > I'm sorry if this has already been answered - I'm just now getting around to the wonder and excitement that is FxPlug2. > > I see that my 32-bit FxPlugs are showing up in Motion 5. They don't work of course. Shouldn't Motion be ignoring older 32-bit only effects? > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/dcardani%40apple.com > > This email sent to dcardani(a)apple.com -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Keeping 32-bit FxPlugs from showing up in Motion 5?
by Paul Miller 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 I'm sorry if this has already been answered - I'm just now getting around to the wonder and excitement that is FxPlug2. I see that my 32-bit FxPlugs are showing up in Motion 5. They don't work of course. Shouldn't Motion be ignoring older 32-bit only effects? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Resolution
by Peter Litwinowicz 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

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Re: Resolution
by Darrin Cardani 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

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Re: Poor performance on software rendering generator
by Darrin Cardani 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com We're seeing that software rendering for a generator is extremely slow. All these are on a Motion 5 project at 1920x1080, 29.97fps, progressive at full res. ... So even before we add any custom code we're hampered by using software rendering, and this is just a simple generator with an output only not a filter with input/output. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Poor performance on software rendering generator
by Martin Baker 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=q1q4ZzCS4klEIzBSKZLvkTabVq+gMI2E6R9xnjpGF9k=; b=SYZje5lOXiRw6E9JXH/akuGL2rtkkbMiMHGxssNKDdXHkSwgLbk2su9Ly0o63T2aFm AjvA2CORGoOimBYRFXaYRq453TyNpKsQuQjRrOtj+UAfaAj4P0NAZQPp/zJebExv0C3t FGALS6/L76rRPNXJURcoFdqr4/vp+kPZKQVNc= We're seeing that software rendering for a generator is extremely slow. All these are on a Motion 5 project at 1920x1080, 29.97fps, progressive at full res. ... So even before we add any custom code we're hampered by using software rendering, and this is just a simple generator with an output only not a filter with input/output. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Poor performance on software rendering generator
by Pierre Jasmin 01 Aug '11

01 Aug '11

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