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Re: Resize FxPlug's custom UI
by Darrin Cardani 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Roman, That’s not currently supported. I recommend filing a Radar describing how you’d like it to work. This isn’t the first request like this that we’ve had, and the more requests we get, the more likely we are to implement changes. Darrin > On May 31, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Roman Kudinov <roman.kudinov(a)novelapp.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm developing an FxPlug effect and it has a plenty of custom UI items. Is there a way I could collapse and expand them? If I just resize appropriate NSView object the area allocated for the custom parameter UI doesn't change. Can I notify Motion/FCPX somehow that they need to recalculate the area? > > > Thanks, > Roman > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/dcardani%40apple.com > > This email sent to dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FCPX current playhead and identifying a clip in FxPlug
by Darrin Cardani 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Daniel, Regarding the issue of getting multiple parameters to show the full keyframe editor - I don’t think this is possible. There is a limitation of only a single parameter being able to show that view. I had thought we lifted that restriction a while ago, but apparently I was mistaken. There can be only 1. If a parameter is rigged then keyframes won’t work because they conflict with the rig, so that makes some sense. Given that and the issues you’re having with Rigged parameters, your best bet in this scenario is to write your own keyframe editor to display keyframes and let the user modify them. I wish I had better news. Darrin > On May 31, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Daniel Walz <daniel(a)filmstro.com> wrote: > > Hi Darrin, > > using Rigs brings another problem: > The FxKeyframeAPI keyframeCount: forParam: andIndex: returns always 0. > > When publishing the parameter directly, I can access the keyframes, > even though I still can't access their value. > I always get the value from the motion template instead of the actual > clips automation. > But the keyframes' positions I can get correctly. > > So priority is to read the keyframe values, and then it would be > awesome to get the parameters displayed as curves. > > Any clues? > > Thanks, > Daniel > > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Daniel Walz <daniel(a)filmstro.com> wrote: >> Hi Darrin, >> >> >>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Darrin Cardani <dcardani(a)apple.com> wrote: >>> [...] >>>> For #4, it seems that in order for a parameter to allow vertical editing in >>>> the curve editor in FCPX, it needs to be rigged and the rig’s slider needs >>>> to go from 0 to 100. Otherwise, it will just allow you to edit the time of >>>> the keyframes. So you can do the following in your Motion Template: >>>> >>>> 1) Open the inspector for your plug-in >>>> 2) Click on the pop-up menu for the parameter you want the user to be able >>>> to edit using the curve editor in FCPX >>>> 3) Click “Add to Rig” and select “Create New Rig” and then “Add to New >>>> Slider” >>>> 4) This will create a new Rig in your Motion Template named “Slider” which >>>> by default goes from 0 to 100 >>>> 5) You can rename the Rig by Double-clicking on the name “Slider” in the >>>> layer list and entering a new name >>>> >>>> Now when you add the generator to the timeline in FCPX and bring up the >>>> curve editor, you can select the Rigged Slider as the parameter to show and >>>> you’ll see the disclosure triangle on the right side. Click it and it should >>>> expand to allow editing both the value and time of the parameter. >> >> Ok, that kinda works. But only for the first parameter. I have four >> parameters to publish. >> What is strange, it always works for the first to publish. When I add >> more than one, >> the first one still shows the expand button when I select it. >> But the others show only the point in time, but no curve. >> >> All four parameters are identical, value 0..100. >> >> It makes no difference, if I add them to the same Rig or if I create a >> new Rig for each slider. >> >> Can you or the Developers please check if you can add more than one >> sliders as curves? >> >> Otherwise I should probably file a bug for that. >> >> Small extra question, is there a way to reorder the parameters? They appear in >> opposite order of creation in motion, but they end up in random order >> in the HUD >> in FCPX. >> >> Thanks for checking, >> Daniel >> >> -- >> Daniel Walz | Software Developer >> >> Filmstro | Music that Moves. >> >> www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro > > > > -- > Daniel Walz | Software Developer > > Filmstro | Music that Moves. > > Sussex Innovation Centre | Science Park Square | Brighton, BN1 9SB > > daniel(a)filmstro.com | Personal mobile: +44 7491 836 008 > > www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Resize FxPlug's custom UI
by Roman Kudinov 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Hi, Thanks, Roman _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I'm developing an FxPlug effect and it has a plenty of custom UI items. Is there a way I could collapse and expand them? If I just resize appropriate NSView object the area allocated for the custom parameter UI doesn't change. Can I notify Motion/FCPX somehow that they need to recalculate the area?

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Re: FCPX current playhead and identifying a clip in FxPlug
by Daniel Walz 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=filmstro-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MqkclaDciKwtzciJJPiGDWHYI9Ezr1AWshKrbPk42GY=; b=mJJ1SXQXNk1h/rTqPv2JNy0UW2C1Z1XB7rGSAs8DKe92uEoWrfdskeC9Bh64KbHRuU uR3ng7NEfMgrKhJvEUSb7OuUkjZSbOxbJWQvcIAbLEMsd5mEI1qquueiqgVfTs+jLQfu Qkqb30iTbwt3byjvzYcF8lIfDJ1CIwWXMVD611iAS4IaSGp1Td/+Z2lUh3FrCKP08D3a BLPbl2dSAvVFdyOQvyxI0WcaSQC/Ty5T5tTpLXtQpyDcezqiSVKMHRoC2slN5uxjMJ+5 eaq/5xSqwjJzoanMxZO3woJPfZVi26wCDAO9Umq14VP0rvoAZlDnwrAh/ffFwqEgyEQQ chNQ== Hi Darrin, using Rigs brings another problem: The FxKeyframeAPI keyframeCount: forParam: andIndex: returns always 0. When publishing the parameter directly, I can access the keyframes, even though I still can't access their value. I always get the value from the motion template instead of the actual clips automation. But the keyframes' positions I can get correctly. So priority is to read the keyframe values, and then it would be awesome to get the parameters displayed as curves. Any clues? Thanks, Daniel On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Daniel Walz <daniel(a)filmstro.com> wrote: > Hi Darrin, > > >> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Darrin Cardani <dcardani(a)apple.com> wrote: >> [...] >>> For #4, it seems that in order for a parameter to allow vertical editing in >>> the curve editor in FCPX, it needs to be rigged and the rig’s slider needs >>> to go from 0 to 100. Otherwise, it will just allow you to edit the time of >>> the keyframes. So you can do the following in your Motion Template: >>> >>> 1) Open the inspector for your plug-in >>> 2) Click on the pop-up menu for the parameter you want the user to be able >>> to edit using the curve editor in FCPX >>> 3) Click “Add to Rig” and select “Create New Rig” and then “Add to New >>> Slider” >>> 4) This will create a new Rig in your Motion Template named “Slider” which >>> by default goes from 0 to 100 >>> 5) You can rename the Rig by Double-clicking on the name “Slider” in the >>> layer list and entering a new name >>> >>> Now when you add the generator to the timeline in FCPX and bring up the >>> curve editor, you can select the Rigged Slider as the parameter to show and >>> you’ll see the disclosure triangle on the right side. Click it and it should >>> expand to allow editing both the value and time of the parameter. > > Ok, that kinda works. But only for the first parameter. I have four > parameters to publish. > What is strange, it always works for the first to publish. When I add > more than one, > the first one still shows the expand button when I select it. > But the others show only the point in time, but no curve. > > All four parameters are identical, value 0..100. > > It makes no difference, if I add them to the same Rig or if I create a > new Rig for each slider. > > Can you or the Developers please check if you can add more than one > sliders as curves? > > Otherwise I should probably file a bug for that. > > Small extra question, is there a way to reorder the parameters? They appear in > opposite order of creation in motion, but they end up in random order > in the HUD > in FCPX. > > Thanks for checking, > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Walz | Software Developer > > Filmstro | Music that Moves. > > www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro -- Daniel Walz | Software Developer Filmstro | Music that Moves. Sussex Innovation Centre | Science Park Square | Brighton, BN1 9SB daniel(a)filmstro.com | Personal mobile: +44 7491 836 008 www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Setting string values and getting keyframe values
by Daniel Walz 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=filmstro-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uIG40TuLIn9iVxlpMk1Lfo1s4LVj2ba0iGSlivp1oBk=; b=hVJJKQCnAu4PUiJ5STO2eb8cU94cLNrB257B3fDoWOJhHRCCI6PqlVM3uiJlpPagTN 3P3gkTl86ploLv8wsR68/gZKwf/wCkzZc/jtIpaJPHQ8RbTEN1Jg5Tr42SUmuke0OpS0 UHOU6njI4gD+mQqYo1BL43UOQywzUOQ4X7OEaRxLBhYz5CAvz3bPs/LVhIZWK4+ALyHo c7NQzc8t+h8Ls/E7VcBluhP8P1TPd5iqWzW4FuBznKU7ec4BH5IpUTIENqx9Sv0ifBWa GLO+fDgkSDYlfL8uTP6LRiqW5cC1+kUEFAD8+oKZvJw9LA66LMowFcbetpMjWbfW/T5E EAFQ== Hi Darrin On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Darrin Cardani <dcardani(a)apple.com> wrote: > > I have seen other developers use techniques like the following: > > At some point when you aren’t allowed to set parameters, issue a call to: > [-myPlugin performSelectorOnMainThread:@selector(setSpecialParams:) > withObject:whateverObjectYouNeed > waitUntilDone:NO]; > Then in -setSpecialParams:, you can use the FxCustomParameterActionAPI to > start an action, then set parameters as you like, then call endAction:. > > > What this does is performs whatever selector you choose on the main UI > thread. The calls to startAction/endAction ensure that the app does the > right housekeeping for you to start changing parameter values. > > Let me know if that works for you. > > Darrin > That looks good, I will give that a go. And for regular checks for synchronising I think I could use NSTimer, which also happens on the GUI thread, together with your hint using beginAction and endAction I should be good to go. Thanks, I will get back if I run in trouble... Daniel -- Daniel Walz | Software Developer Filmstro | Music that Moves. www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Detecting if Final Cut Pro is currently playing?
by Chris Hocking 31 May '17

31 May '17

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Re: Setting string values and getting keyframe values
by Darrin Cardani 31 May '17

31 May '17

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Re: Setting string values and getting keyframe values
by Daniel Walz 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=filmstro-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=U6AgSwldo2BO6xeQfzsMVyzlY3jf6Th1wq8jzSRh1iM=; b=x/dMj3YJUSw6khFpSnU2a1/O284NFkePSJH3weBaUdpcuJvqjwQLVzu2pp89IOdPuh 1/Ul2+4sBAjU2BrvX9AW3bVQ+szt2ZX9XRMSmGV161bYEKD12i8VpSwe/GWZQ8qfVgzc G5BfXfoiiiyTB1T4vVZnYkbb1fXefnEnJsovHiZc3pm5fseFs3QzbzWowi13Cbw4cQjm ayrN9wS+/3oLfFZNBMyk6PGZTr3++w4iafj1sCIz6pNqH8r9PQSdEvkbtN2EgwXcLZl1 aYTMy50ptklFYSx5Ey3w2ZFUeGT8adpn9rEqzBj20bSE5XQdxz4fN4v9dBexVnvup6nq gSRw== On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Paul Miller <stelefx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I tried to do this in addParameter as default value, but it is only >> called once per session. Further instantiation of the generator does >> just a clone from the first created instance. >> >> There also seem to be no callbacks, where I could hook in with that... >> >> Any ideas how to achieve this? > > > Unfortunately, no. Hopefully Darrin will have an idea for you. > > I see. After reading a little bit further I understand the reasoning behind. As I am not allowed to set parameters outside the GUI thread, it makes sense, that calls from other threads are not allowed. But as there are so few chances to hook into the system, I don't know, how I could programmatically do anything. Is there a chance to give a little more callbacks, e.g when restoring of parameters was finished, or even a timer callback from the GUI thread with a low rate like 5 times/sec would at least allow to synchronise stuff... I am aware, that what I do is not standard, but I think a little more freedom for plugins should be possible. Or maybe some of that is already possible? Darrin? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Walz | Software Developer Filmstro | Music that Moves. www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Setting string values and getting keyframe values
by Paul Miller 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=reply-to:subject:to:references:from:organization:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=klVmbYcdmVa7b7/OyTm+0SCFPe1HA37HBiDWHhMbop4=; b=kPYIC7jfCYFcw3X9sE9vbXNYI4kVBXRn4JpGZUjzQdN1/1MfvMAyhkGC+QygYp5xd8 IFTxzOUV5LY9yqAllXREWMKFcHaX5hutVjFJyXwlQEIS2POzNf3VR1+OwsH91G+bg7yp 57WyYpFmqVtz7HkHCsx+0pLf1rS4aAqRhKFCMJknFmxu1FR+TUdkbS4mv4fzp/Se95dR IJI/Zcx6jzdKcTd1kerZ3QEX9HkSB3DEvy7HJh+ln3hVvlI6cSF5vtO0fXjdYi3FCzY0 /c0cblTOW6QKQQP+HVbbLTG6mx/KgocxJ8+KVIGXNFpV95TLUbQLYNWMCZzbbIHQAQ2M hnCw== Organization: FXTECH User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 I tried to do this in addParameter as default value, but it is only called once per session. Further instantiation of the generator does just a clone from the first created instance. There also seem to be no callbacks, where I could hook in with that... Any ideas how to achieve this? Unfortunately, no. Hopefully Darrin will have an idea for you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Setting string values and getting keyframe values
by Daniel Walz 31 May '17

31 May '17

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=filmstro-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=u4ZspECuHJnwMqhIrYOo69KgAo3j8Muaaad2Jt39Tdw=; b=sJui2C50jVhP+mm0CMjwl0Pix53jYQRJ6WDxvuGxW3LUqscFO8PvDI8KOmVVnCDiy4 pdWp23xZ7YzFbIlTDptZ7E2k+TB0iT1lAUg9BaS7EsQHYyQZQQBD2dTTKz2N3qikQa3i gW5k8qU/+HzRz7Z5DG+NK2s4W0IhVai5R1pHcoNYVxdqN0W2alrgr1wzRHZaGNwgTXbP 5rmJ3Pwr55nnIjLSB+dDhjhQTOPbDCUYzV5ZIdea8L7WLhG3lGUw/H2DNNmWdgeqwA8c flPwrlJ1aSfCjfOCjsojfPSn2T52GjnJ6lXxyGNQj2Ij4JHbcn43VAFWE+xlW2QxBGDK 7dtg== Hi Paul, On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Paul Miller <stelefx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 5/31/2017 7:23 AM, Daniel Walz wrote: >> >> Friendly bump: >> >> does anyone use "FxParameterSettingAPI_v4 setStringParameterValue: >> toParm:" successfully? >> >> N.B. I tried both, kFxParameterFlag_NOT_ANIMATABLE and >> kFxParameterFlag_DEFAULT, but no luck. > > > When are you calling the function to set the value? IIRC, you can only call > that in response to a parameter changed event, so you have to set the > default value properly when you create the parameter. Thank you. Indeed, it works inside the parameterChanged. I tried to call it in finishInitialSetup... But that leaves me that problem: To find my generator inside the XML I have to add a parameter containing a UUID (the generator UUID only references the motion template, but not the actual video on the timeline). So when I add a clip to the timeline, I want to check, if the parameter is set to a valid UUID. If not I generate one and set it to the parameter. I need to differentiate, if the clip was created manually or restored from a previous session. I tried to do this in addParameter as default value, but it is only called once per session. Further instantiation of the generator does just a clone from the first created instance. There also seem to be no callbacks, where I could hook in with that... Any ideas how to achieve this? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Walz | Software Developer Filmstro | Music that Moves. www.filmstro.com | twitter/filmstro | vimeo/filmstro _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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