September 2006 - Darwin-dev

Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Shaun Wexler 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 20, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Eric Schlegel wrote: On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Optionally, if you have a free partition on any attached drive that's big enough, you can just write the .dmg to the hard drive partition rather than burning a DVD. This is common practice for many Apple engineers. Then you can boot from that partition rather than booting from the DVD. It's typically much faster than burning a DVD, too. Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's onto disk. I don't think you can boot from it in that case, though. And you need to boot from it to run the installer. No burning should be necessary. Any particular Mac OS X version can be installed onto another partition by mounting the .dmg, logging into the root account and double-clicking on the image's /System/ Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg. You're only required to boot from a CD/DVD when installing onto your [solitary] boot volume. -- Shaun Wexler MacFOH http://www.macfoh.com "Society often forgives the criminal; it never forgives the dreamer." - Oscar Wilde This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: *.dmg file too big
by Peter Bierman 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's onto disk. No. Do Not Do That. It will Not work correctly. That'd be sort of ok. -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… At 5:24 PM -0400 9/20/06, Dan Shoop wrote: At 4:08 PM -0400 9/20/06, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: * Dan Shoop [2006/09/20 03:46 PM -0400] wrote: ... but you can't boot from a mounted .dmg ... You can just install the packages from the mounted dmg. They're in System/Installation/Packages. The latest OS Install packages are designed to use features in the latest Installer. If you try to install them using a version of the Installer older than they are, they may fail in subtle ways. And if you really wanted a bootable disk that does fit on single layer DVD media you could convert the dmg so it's writable and delete the XCode Tools folder which should drop the size of the dmg down small enough to burn to a single layer DVD. You can burn similarly burn the XCode Tools to a separate DVD. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: random feline name *.dmg file too big
by Jaime Magiera 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: Jaime _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Can you guys *NOT* talk about this on list... or at least change the subject if you're talking in vague terms. You end up f$cking it up for everyone else who knows how to follow directions. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Dan Shoop 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's onto disk. -- -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop AIM: iWiring Systems & Networks Architect http://www.ustsvs.com/ shoop(a)iwiring.net http://www.iwiring.net/ 1-714-363-1174 "The wise man doesn't give the right answers, he poses the right questions." -- Claude Levi-Strauss ------------------------------------------------------------------------ iWiring provides systems and networks support for Mac OS X, unix, and Open Source application technologies at affordable rates. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… At 4:08 PM -0400 9/20/06, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: * Dan Shoop [2006/09/20 03:46 PM -0400] wrote: ... but you can't boot from a mounted .dmg ... You can just install the packages from the mounted dmg. They're in System/Installation/Packages. And if you really wanted a bootable disk that does fit on single layer DVD media you could convert the dmg so it's writable and delete the XCode Tools folder which should drop the size of the dmg down small enough to burn to a single layer DVD. You can burn similarly burn the XCode Tools to a separate DVD. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Where is sysctl.proc_native documented? Other sysctl values?
by Eric Albert 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

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Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Eric Schlegel 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: -eric _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Optionally, if you have a free partition on any attached drive that's big enough, you can just write the .dmg to the hard drive partition rather than burning a DVD. This is common practice for many Apple engineers. Then you can boot from that partition rather than booting from the DVD. It's typically much faster than burning a DVD, too. Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's onto disk. I don't think you can boot from it in that case, though. And you need to boot from it to run the installer. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Ted Thibodeau Jr 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com ** At 9:01 PM -0700 9/19/06, Eric Schlegel wrote: >> Optionally, if you have a free partition on any attached drive >> that's big enough, you can just write the .dmg to the hard drive >> partition rather than burning a DVD. This is common practice for >> many Apple engineers. Then you can boot from that partition rather >> than booting from the DVD. It's typically much faster than burning >> a DVD, too. Ah, that's another useful strategy, if you have such a partition... * Dan Shoop [2006/09/20 03:46 PM -0400] wrote: > Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with > hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's > onto disk. ... but you can't boot from a mounted .dmg ... Be seeing you, Ted -- A: Yes. http://www.guckes.net/faq/attribution.html | Q: Are you sure? | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Ted Thibodeau, Jr. // voice +1-781-273-0900 x32 Evangelism & Support // mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com OpenLink Software, Inc. // http://www.openlinksw.com/ http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/uda/ OpenLink Blogs http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/virtuoso/ http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ Universal Data Access and Virtual Database Technology Providers _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Dan Shoop 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 19, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: This information is not specific to Leopard seeds, about which I have no specific comment or information DVD+R DL is necessary for 4.71-9.4 GB images. This media size is necessary for more than 120 minutes of DVD video, too -- with the new disc capacity being 240 minutes. These are burnable in the latest Mac-included SuperDrives, but not in all older ones. (I do not have any information on which models started including the newer drives, but it was not later than the Intel-based iMacs.) -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop AIM: iWiring Systems & Networks Architect http://www.ustsvs.com/ shoop(a)iwiring.net http://www.iwiring.net/ 1-714-363-1174 "The wise man doesn't give the right answers, he poses the right questions." -- Claude Levi-Strauss ------------------------------------------------------------------------ iWiring provides systems and networks support for Mac OS X, unix, and Open Source application technologies at affordable rates. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… At 9:01 PM -0700 9/19/06, Eric Schlegel wrote: Optionally, if you have a free partition on any attached drive that's big enough, you can just write the .dmg to the hard drive partition rather than burning a DVD. This is common practice for many Apple engineers. Then you can boot from that partition rather than booting from the DVD. It's typically much faster than burning a DVD, too. Well then you can just leave the dmg as a dmg and just mount it with hdid (etc) as well too. That is you don't have to expand the dmg's onto disk. -- This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Where is sysctl.proc_native documented? Other sysctl values?
by Shaun Wexler 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

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utility to display offsets of fields
by Joe van Tunen 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acbc68lXn5cWrtzdEcac9Jr/UQuKaA== Thread-topic: utility to display offsets of fields Is there a utility that can display the offsets of fields in type definitions stored in the debug info of a Mach-O file? The gdb ptype command will display the type definition but not the field offsets. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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