September 2006 - Darwin-dev

Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Justin C. Walker 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 19, 2006, at 19:27 , Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: i know this is not the right forum to ask, but i guessed i could get answer here, so... Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ----------- If it weren't for carbon-14, I wouldn't date at all. ----------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… i'm signed up to apple software seeding program for leopard. the disk image file currently online exceeds 4.7Gbytes, so it does not fit normal DVD-R. any workarounds/helps are appreciated. thanks. This is probably covered by an NDA, and therefore, is not appropriate for this forum. You should contact DTS with this sort of issue (<mailto:dts@apple.com>). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: leopard *.dmg file too big
by Daniel M. Zimmerman 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com i know this is not the right forum to ask, but i guessed i could get answer here, so... i'm signed up to apple software seeding program for leopard. the disk image file currently online exceeds 4.7Gbytes, so it does not fit normal DVD-R. any workarounds/helps are appreciated. thanks. Read the documentation that comes with it... -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel M. Zimmerman TFF Enterprises M/S 256-80 - Caltech http://www.tffenterprises.com/ Pasadena, California 91125 USA dmz(a)tffenterprises.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… --On 20 September 2006 11.27.31 +0900 Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino <itojun(a)itojun.org> wrote: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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leopard *.dmg file too big
by itojun＠itojun.org 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com i know this is not the right forum to ask, but i guessed i could get answer here, so... i'm signed up to apple software seeding program for leopard. the disk image file currently online exceeds 4.7Gbytes, so it does not fit normal DVD-R. any workarounds/helps are appreciated. thanks. itojun _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by Justin C. Walker 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 19, 2006, at 19:12 , Steve Checkoway wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: $ ls -l foop lrwxr-xr-x 1 justin wheel 9 Sep 19 18:59 foop -> /tmp/goop you see the *file information* for the linked-to file, as in $ ls -lL foop -rw-r--r-- 1 justin wheel 7 Sep 19 18:59 foop Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income -------- When LuteFisk is outlawed, Only outlaws will have LuteFisk -------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… It's not a bug; it is the way links work. A link between files lets you reference the second (linked-to) file by the name of the first (linked from) file. I think the issue is that this behavior seems to contradict what the man page says: -L If argument is a symbolic link, list the file or directory the link references rather than the link itself. This option cancels the -P option. I think if you read that correctly (i.e., the way I do :-}), it says that instead of seeing the *file information* for the symlink, as in The file information in Unix file systems is divorced from the file name. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by Steve Checkoway 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 19, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: -- Steve Checkoway _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com It's not a bug; it is the way links work. A link between files lets you reference the second (linked-to) file by the name of the first (linked from) file. I think the issue is that this behavior seems to contradict what the man page says: -L If argument is a symbolic link, list the file or directory the link references rather than the link itself. This option cancels the -P option. smime.p7s

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Re: ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by Justin C. Walker 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 19, 2006, at 15:14 , David Hoerl wrote: Here is what I did to test this: $ cd /tmp $ cat > goop hello world $ ln -s /tmp/goop /tmp/foop $ file foop foop: symbolic link to `/tmp/goop' $ ls -L foop foop $ ls -L goop goop The same thing happens with hard links. For symlinks, you find the linked-to file by "ls -l", for example.\ $ ls -l foop lrwxr-xr-x 1 justin wheel 9 Sep 19 18:59 foop -> /tmp/goop Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-at-Large () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML Email _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I recently had cause to try and use "ls -L file" to find the linked file. Its not working (I wanted to use the return string in a shell program). Is this a known problem (ie should I create a bug report on it)? It's not a bug; it is the way links work. A link between files lets you reference the second (linked-to) file by the name of the first (linked from) file. This isn't shell-specific, since it's "ls" that is doing the work. The shell dutifully passes 'foop' to "ls". This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by Gwynne 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Here is what I did to test this: $ cd /tmp $ cat > goop hello world $ ln -s /tmp/goop /tmp/foop $ file foop foop: symbolic link to `/tmp/goop' $ ls -L foop foop $ ls -L goop goop I think that this is the way it's meant to work: $ ls -l gah lrwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 2 Sep 20 07:27 gah -> hw $ ls -Lld gah drwxr-xr-x 12 peter peter 408 Sep 19 12:35 gah -- Gwynne, daughter of the Code "This whole world is an asylum for the incurable." _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Sep 19, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: I recently had cause to try and use "ls -L file" to find the linked file. Its not working (I wanted to use the return string in a shell program). Is this a known problem (ie should I create a bug report on it)? I ran into this exact issue a few days ago. My solution was to use the "readlink" utility on the link. I'm not sure if this is bash- specific or not. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by Peter O'Gorman 19 Sep '06

19 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 20, 2006, at 7:14 AM, David Hoerl wrote: Here is what I did to test this: $ cd /tmp $ cat > goop hello world $ ln -s /tmp/goop /tmp/foop $ file foop foop: symbolic link to `/tmp/goop' $ ls -L foop foop $ ls -L goop goop I think that this is the way it's meant to work: $ ls -l gah lrwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 2 Sep 20 07:27 gah -> hw $ ls -Lld gah drwxr-xr-x 12 peter peter 408 Sep 19 12:35 gah Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I recently had cause to try and use "ls -L file" to find the linked file. Its not working (I wanted to use the return string in a shell program). Is this a known problem (ie should I create a bug report on it)? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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ls -L [some symbolic linked file] not working
by David Hoerl 19 Sep '06

19 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Here is what I did to test this: $ cd /tmp $ cat > goop hello world $ ln -s /tmp/goop /tmp/foop $ file foop foop: symbolic link to `/tmp/goop' $ ls -L foop foop $ ls -L goop goop Is this a known problem (ie should I create a bug report on it)? David _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I recently had cause to try and use "ls -L file" to find the linked file. Its not working (I wanted to use the return string in a shell program). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Passing too many parameters to a function?
by Graham J Lee 18 Sep '06

18 Sep '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:06, Camillo Lugaresi wrote: On 20/ago/06, at 12:17, Uli Kusterer wrote: Hi, int main() or int main( int argc, const char* argv* ) -- Graham J Lee http://www.thaesofereode.info/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… you know how main() can be declared with varying parameter counts, like and even more. Does this work for any function? I just read this thread, and although it's old, it seems that it did not reach a conclusion, so forgive me for resurrecting it. :) If you look at the PPC and IA32 ABIs, it seems that what you want to do is safe. Although that doesn't conform with any published version of the C standard[*], so if Apple ever decided that their C really *is* C then you'd be up the proverbial tributary... [*]It's only main() which is /allowed/ more than one prototype, and then there are only two. I think the rare main(argc,argv,envp) is only ever an implementation-specific monstrosity. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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