November 2005 - Installer-dev

Re: Required Packages in Metapackage
by Perbix, Michael 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

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Re: Required Packages in Metapackage
by Tobias Peciva 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Cheers, Tobias On 29/11/2005, at 9:40 AM, Perbix, Michael wrote: -Mike On 11/28/05 3:21 PM, "Tobias Peciva" <peciva(a)pharos.co.nz> wrote: On 29/11/2005, at 7:07 AM, robert.maggi(a)kodak.com wrote: I am creating a CUPS printer driver and need to put the driver in / Library/Printers/Kodak/... and its PPD file in /Library/Printers/ PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj. While I currently move everything to the Kodak folder and then run a postflight script to copy the PPD file where it belongs, this seems like a good place to use a metapackage file (10.3.9 or later, so dist files need not apply). I can create the two .pkg files, and I can create a metapackage file that includes the two .pkg files (both with the Required attribute), but the .mpkg file allows the user to deselect either (or both) packages after clicking the Customize button during installation. While I don't mind them seeing there are two packages, I need both be installed for the driver to work. In the Info.plist for each .pkg file, make sure you have: <key>IFPkgFlagIsRequired</key> <true/> If this is set, the user will not be able to uncheck your packages. The only exception is if a package has already been installed on the target machine, in which case it can be unchecked. But of course if the package is already installed, this doesn't actually matter: The installer would skip it anyway. Note that you could also place all files in the same .pkg file (no .mpkg required), set the default location to "/", the relocatable flag to "false" and just make sure that your package root matches the directory structure you want on disk. If you don't specifically need the user to be able to select which packages to install, this is probably preferable. Cheers, Tobias Peciva Pharos Systems _______________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 - Work (610) 896-2019 - Fax _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… How about fixing up the privileges in the postinstall script? We use chmod/chown in our postinstall scripts to guarantee that all installed components have the correct ownerships and permissions. Except there is some known problems with doing this and using ROOT authentication where the priv's of the directory paths to your items being installed get messed up. I have come across this many times....the recommended way to to do as suggested and create a separate package for each set of items that need to be installed at a given location, and make sure the root is set that folder, then combine them into a Meta-Package. At least, that is why my research and info from Apple Support has come up with. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix% 40lmsd.org This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Required Packages in Metapackage
by Perbix, Michael 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcX0W/UGM2llK2BPEdq74QANk3Ch3AAADR3I Thread-topic: Required Packages in Metapackage User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 BTW IceBerg makes this process very simple with the ability to make components (packages) on the fly while making the Meta-package. -Mike On 11/28/05 3:40 PM, "Perbix, Michael" <PERBIX(a)lmsd.org> wrote: > Except there is some known problems with doing this and using ROOT > authentication where the priv's of the directory paths to your items being > installed get messed up. > > I have come across this many times....the recommended way to to do as > suggested and create a separate package for each set of items that need to > be installed at a given location, and make sure the root is set that folder, > then combine them into a Meta-Package. > > At least, that is why my research and info from Apple Support has come up > with. > > -Mike > > > On 11/28/05 3:21 PM, "Tobias Peciva" <peciva(a)pharos.co.nz> wrote: > >> On 29/11/2005, at 7:07 AM, robert.maggi(a)kodak.com wrote: >> >>> I am creating a CUPS printer driver and need to put the driver in / >>> Library/Printers/Kodak/... and its PPD file in /Library/Printers/ >>> PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj. While I currently move everything >>> to the Kodak folder and then run a postflight script to copy the >>> PPD file where it belongs, this seems like a good place to use a >>> metapackage file (10.3.9 or later, so dist files need not apply). I >>> can create the two .pkg files, and I can create a metapackage file >>> that includes the two .pkg files (both with the Required >>> attribute), but the .mpkg file allows the user to deselect either >>> (or both) packages after clicking the Customize button during >>> installation. While I don't mind them seeing there are two >>> packages, I need both be installed for the driver to work. >> >> In the Info.plist for each .pkg file, make sure you have: >> >> <key>IFPkgFlagIsRequired</key> >> <true/> >> >> If this is set, the user will not be able to uncheck your packages. >> The only exception is if a package has already been installed on the >> target machine, in which case it can be unchecked. But of course if >> the package is already installed, this doesn't actually matter: The >> installer would skip it anyway. >> >> Note that you could also place all files in the same .pkg file >> (no .mpkg required), set the default location to "/", the relocatable >> flag to "false" and just make sure that your package root matches the >> directory structure you want on disk. If you don't specifically need >> the user to be able to select which packages to install, this is >> probably preferable. >> >> Cheers, >> Tobias Peciva >> Pharos Systems >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix%40lmsd.org >> >> This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org > > _______________________________________________ > Michael Perbix > Lower Merion School District > Telecommunications Specialist > (610) 645-1964 - Work > (610) 896-2019 - Fax > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix%40lmsd.org > > This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org _______________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 - Work (610) 896-2019 - Fax _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Required Packages in Metapackage
by Perbix, Michael 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcX0W/UGM2llK2BPEdq74QANk3Ch3A== Thread-topic: Required Packages in Metapackage User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Except there is some known problems with doing this and using ROOT authentication where the priv's of the directory paths to your items being installed get messed up. I have come across this many times....the recommended way to to do as suggested and create a separate package for each set of items that need to be installed at a given location, and make sure the root is set that folder, then combine them into a Meta-Package. At least, that is why my research and info from Apple Support has come up with. -Mike On 11/28/05 3:21 PM, "Tobias Peciva" <peciva(a)pharos.co.nz> wrote: > On 29/11/2005, at 7:07 AM, robert.maggi(a)kodak.com wrote: > >> I am creating a CUPS printer driver and need to put the driver in / >> Library/Printers/Kodak/... and its PPD file in /Library/Printers/ >> PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj. While I currently move everything >> to the Kodak folder and then run a postflight script to copy the >> PPD file where it belongs, this seems like a good place to use a >> metapackage file (10.3.9 or later, so dist files need not apply). I >> can create the two .pkg files, and I can create a metapackage file >> that includes the two .pkg files (both with the Required >> attribute), but the .mpkg file allows the user to deselect either >> (or both) packages after clicking the Customize button during >> installation. While I don't mind them seeing there are two >> packages, I need both be installed for the driver to work. > > In the Info.plist for each .pkg file, make sure you have: > > <key>IFPkgFlagIsRequired</key> > <true/> > > If this is set, the user will not be able to uncheck your packages. > The only exception is if a package has already been installed on the > target machine, in which case it can be unchecked. But of course if > the package is already installed, this doesn't actually matter: The > installer would skip it anyway. > > Note that you could also place all files in the same .pkg file > (no .mpkg required), set the default location to "/", the relocatable > flag to "false" and just make sure that your package root matches the > directory structure you want on disk. If you don't specifically need > the user to be able to select which packages to install, this is > probably preferable. > > Cheers, > Tobias Peciva > Pharos Systems > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix%40lmsd.org > > This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org _______________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 - Work (610) 896-2019 - Fax _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Required Packages in Metapackage
by Tobias Peciva 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 29/11/2005, at 7:07 AM, robert.maggi(a)kodak.com wrote: In the Info.plist for each .pkg file, make sure you have: <key>IFPkgFlagIsRequired</key> <true/> Cheers, Tobias Peciva Pharos Systems _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am creating a CUPS printer driver and need to put the driver in / Library/Printers/Kodak/... and its PPD file in /Library/Printers/ PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj. While I currently move everything to the Kodak folder and then run a postflight script to copy the PPD file where it belongs, this seems like a good place to use a metapackage file (10.3.9 or later, so dist files need not apply). I can create the two .pkg files, and I can create a metapackage file that includes the two .pkg files (both with the Required attribute), but the .mpkg file allows the user to deselect either (or both) packages after clicking the Customize button during installation. While I don't mind them seeing there are two packages, I need both be installed for the driver to work. If this is set, the user will not be able to uncheck your packages. The only exception is if a package has already been installed on the target machine, in which case it can be unchecked. But of course if the package is already installed, this doesn't actually matter: The installer would skip it anyway. Note that you could also place all files in the same .pkg file (no .mpkg required), set the default location to "/", the relocatable flag to "false" and just make sure that your package root matches the directory structure you want on disk. If you don't specifically need the user to be able to select which packages to install, this is probably preferable. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Required Packages in Metapackage
by robert.maggi＠kodak.com 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

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Re: (no subject)
by Andy O'Meara 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcXx34fnxrZoo13SEdqamAAKlaBZUA== Thread-topic: (no subject) User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 >> I have support files for my application that need to be installed in >> the user home /Library/Application Support/ directory. What's the >> best/preferred way of installing files into directories in the users >> home folder? Thanks in advance. I take an interesting approach which also satisfies our power users (that hate installers and like to have full control). Download and check out the shell scripts in the G-Force installer: http://www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/ Basically, a folder alongside the .pkg contains all the installation files (so that running the installer isn't a requirement). My only beef is with the number bad/buggy installer problems Apple has left behind in 10.2 and 10.3. For this reason, I have my installer require authentication even though it doesn't actually need it (in 10.2 and 10.3 there are known issues where the installer would fail properly if it wasn't authenticated). AFAIK, there's still a problem with the 10.2.8 installer where if the package isn't on the Mac OS X startup volume, the installation fails. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: (no subject)
by Perbix, Michael 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcXxlWairl/Umqf1SyKCIB7eKhPohQAMtXTw Thread-topic: (no subject) Or possible have your application check for a file in the users home, and if not there, create the pref files there...as a user though, I would much rather see you use /Library/Application Support.... -Mike ------------------------------------------ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist PH (610) 645-1964 Fax (610) 896-2019 ________________________________ From: installer-dev-bounces+perbix=lmsd.org(a)lists.apple.com on behalf of Stéphane Sudre Sent: Fri 11/25/2005 2:51 AM To: adam_online(a)mac.com Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: (no subject) On jeudi, novembre 24, 2005, at 08:23 PM, adam_online(a)mac.com wrote: > I have support files for my application that need to be installed in > the user home /Library/Application Support/ directory. What's the > best/preferred way of installing files into directories in the users > home folder? Thanks in advance. Choose your flavor: - just don't do it if you are installing your application in /Applications. . If you are installing your application in /Application, why not install the support files in /Library/Application Support. . If you still go that way, maybe the easiest solution is to have 2 packages. One which installs the application and that requires Admin/Root privileges. One which does not require privileges, search the archive for some tip on how to do this. Eventually the first package could "install" the raw package in /Users/Shared so that any user can access it if needed. - if you are installing your applications in $HOME/Applications, search the archive for the tip explaining showing how to install stuff in $/HOME without using the relocatable attribute. My $0.02 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix%40lmsd.org This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: (no subject)
by Stéphane Sudre 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On jeudi, novembre 24, 2005, at 08:23 PM, adam_online(a)mac.com wrote: Choose your flavor: My $0.02 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have support files for my application that need to be installed in the user home /Library/Application Support/ directory. What's the best/preferred way of installing files into directories in the users home folder? Thanks in advance. - just don't do it if you are installing your application in /Applications. . If you are installing your application in /Application, why not install the support files in /Library/Application Support. . If you still go that way, maybe the easiest solution is to have 2 packages. One which installs the application and that requires Admin/Root privileges. One which does not require privileges, search the archive for some tip on how to do this. Eventually the first package could "install" the raw package in /Users/Shared so that any user can access it if needed. - if you are installing your applications in $HOME/Applications, search the archive for the tip explaining showing how to install stuff in $/HOME without using the relocatable attribute. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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(no subject)
by adam_online＠mac.com 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Adam _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have support files for my application that need to be installed in the user home /Library/Application Support/ directory. What's the best/preferred way of installing files into directories in the users home folder? Thanks in advance. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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