December 2007 - Installer-dev

Re: "downgrade", "installed", "upgrade" behavior
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On vendredi, décembre 7, 2007, at 01:51 PM, Joakim Nyström wrote: Hi! My 0.02 € _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have tried to figure out how the installer is comparing versions but I can't get it. The day you get it, write a post on a blog on it. If you are able to describe it simply, you will get the Pulitzer prize. I tried to look in the available documentation and also tried to do some searching on this list but I can't find the information I want. The fact is the way versions are compared has changed with the different evolution of the OS. And considering that Leopard supports at least 3 package formats, it can be quite difficult to remember every case. The part I love about version comparison in packages is the one that involves a very long version number which is the concatenation of multiple values... This is what I have tried to do: I've created a small sample application in two versions - version 1 and version 2 and created a separate installer for each of them. When nothing is installed I can use the Installer application to install version 1 and it is possible to upgrade to version 2. Going back to version 1 is prohibited after this since I don't allow downgrades. So long, everything is fine. What puzzles me a bit is that I'm able to install version 2 once again even though it is already installed. The Installer GUI says it is an upgrade (which it is not) and when I inspect the global javascript variable "choices.*.packageUpgradeAction" it even says "downgrade". (I expected "installed" - see file:///Developer/ADC%20Reference%20Library/releasenotes/ DeveloperTools/Installer.html#choices-packageUpgradeAction ) To summarize, what I'm trying to accomplish is an installer that is able to upgrade old versions but will recognized there is no need to install anything if the same version or a newer version is already installed. I guess there is something I've missed or misunderstood. Please, can anyone give me some advice or point to some relevant documentation. It would also be interesting to know if there are any differences between Tiger and Leopard regarding this issue. It's been working like this for a long time and I would expect this behavior. For once, it's difficult for the installer to figure out that all the files are really and correctly installed. Because without running a complete checksum of each file, there is no way to be 100% sure all the files are correctly installed and are the genuine ones (MD5 or any other SHSomething signatures are just a clever hash of the file contents but since hashes are not bijections, it proves nothing - at least this is how I see it). So without checking every bit of every file both on disk and in the file archive, there is no way for Installer.app to be 100% sure that the current installation is 100% correct and since it might prove useful to be able to restore an installation in case a file got corrupted, then IMHO, it is fine that you can "upgrade" a version with itself. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Create / install to locations in the user folder with PackageMaker
by Michael Watson 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com What's in my Dock is my domain. Don't touch it. -- m-s On 07 Dec, 2007, at 11:58, Nathan Duran wrote: On Dec 7, 2007, at 3:32 AM, devmaillists wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Please don't recommend putting icons in the user's Dock. This discussion comes up on mailing lists frequently and always ends with the same few points: - There's no public API for it, which means you have to edit the Dock plist, which is an implementation detail - It's arrogant of the developer - It forces many users to remove the new icon they didn't put there How can I create an Alias with PackageMaker 3 of an application just installed at the current user ´s desktop folder? This is what we need to do. I know it is windows like. If it is a "don´t do that", I would be happy to get a comment from Apple. If you want to force users to look at your icon you'd have better luck shoving it in the dock than on the desktop. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/mikey-san%40bungie.org This email sent to mikey-san(a)bungie.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Create / install to locations in the user folder with PackageMaker
by Nathan Duran 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Dec 7, 2007, at 3:32 AM, devmaillists wrote: How can I create an Alias with PackageMaker 3 of an application just installed at the current user ´s desktop folder? This is what we need to do. I know it is windows like. If it is a "don´t do that", I would be happy to get a comment from Apple. If you want to force users to look at your icon you'd have better luck shoving it in the dock than on the desktop. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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"downgrade", "installed", "upgrade" behavior
by Joakim Nyström 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi! Thanks! / Joakim Nyström _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have tried to figure out how the installer is comparing versions but I can't get it. I tried to look in the available documentation and also tried to do some searching on this list but I can't find the information I want. This is what I have tried to do: I've created a small sample application in two versions - version 1 and version 2 and created a separate installer for each of them. When nothing is installed I can use the Installer application to install version 1 and it is possible to upgrade to version 2. Going back to version 1 is prohibited after this since I don't allow downgrades. So long, everything is fine. What puzzles me a bit is that I'm able to install version 2 once again even though it is already installed. The Installer GUI says it is an upgrade (which it is not) and when I inspect the global javascript variable "choices.*.packageUpgradeAction" it even says "downgrade". (I expected "installed" - see file:///Developer/ADC%20Reference% 20Library/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/Installer.html#choices- packageUpgradeAction ) To summarize, what I'm trying to accomplish is an installer that is able to upgrade old versions but will recognized there is no need to install anything if the same version or a newer version is already installed. I guess there is something I've missed or misunderstood. Please, can anyone give me some advice or point to some relevant documentation. It would also be interesting to know if there are any differences between Tiger and Leopard regarding this issue. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Create / install to locations in the user folder with PackageMaker
by devmaillists 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dear list, Thank you very much… Jürgen _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have read some discussions about installing Aliases in the users folders. But it looks there is no correct way to do that. How can I create an Alias with PackageMaker 3 of an application just installed at the current user ´s desktop folder? This is what we need to do. I know it is windows like. If it is a "don´t do that", I would be happy to get a comment from Apple. Can I create a maximal Alias at the development machine and move this Alias with PackageMaker to the install destination? Or what is the best official way to do that? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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What can modify execution of bundle in Launch Service DB?
by Fosse 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

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[installer-dev] Requires Restart becomes Shutdown?
by Alexander von Below 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, Alex I am trying to build an installer package (with PackageMaker 2 -- see 1) )which requires restart. But when I set the Post-Install Action to "Required Restard", it will change to "Require Shutdown" the moment I save the project (and consequently, when I open it) Am I missing something? Is this a known bug? Could anyone here tell me if she or he has successfully build a project to "Require Restart"? 1) I would love to use PackageMaker 3, but I have a different bug there that prevents me from successfully installing a kext. I posted the issue to the list a while ago, but did not really get a reply. It is filed on radar- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: launching app post-install in leopard
by Adam Fisk 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=0Op8qlOOqlIBcvYNzzVCTyk6LJ/gW0ekll6m7WXATUI=; b=bDw7VW0PDSdJGoge3kvfmkP9x6JwJLVfO3eoZojw5Jw2PyzQNouSv/NVMVrUkFWNoffvw6gJMzzhfZ0SrfkU5zvkceRIrujquL/N2cDOQ7O4u2x+2skBcy7kr1CbIIhHVoKNKKZm94JT6NCbgOAusG56AEuKk5MW4n0uWV+CWZg= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZkurgQX5RQ+mJHq2FWKrjEFZJhLccz2REd2Wm1ZgbHWeR8fZahoZxa5cgXkcCZ+zFEuYToSXFGEmG5Mmew2ORnjlgtvioImYcNA3B11DXwhaFszHhhQzCjHbx3wQwDfzFhhsQLotiWP3DdUc953hpfG6gtneQdiifhbsoFw2hLg= Quick followup on this. It turns out I was wrong about the cause -- all my checks with xattr passed no problem -- the plist file was not actually marked as quarantined. Rather, I was experiencing a new user ID check in Leopard where calls to launchctl are checked to make sure the file has the same owner as the caller. The problem was the installed plist file was owned by the user, whereas the installer was running under sudo (to my dismay, I had to make the installer run as administrator at one point). I ultimately had to add the following to my postflight script: if ! chown root org.lastbamboo.littleshoot.plist then echo "Could not take root ownership of plist!!" exit 1 fi Since postflight is running as root, this succeeds, and the installer runs no problem! Interestingly, I believe this means launchctl may be a workaround for launching the app after install. One caveat though -- I'm actually still only testing locally. It's very possible *I'll also have to implement your fix Martin* once I actually am downloading the installer. I'll know soon. Thanks again. Hope this is helpful to someone else. Oh, the new snippet from darwin I ran into is here: if (sb.st_uid != 0 && sb.st_uid != getuid()) { fprintf(stderr, "%s: Dubious ownership on file (skipping): %s\n", getprogname(), path); return false; } -Adam On Nov 28, 2007 9:33 PM, Adam Fisk <a(a)lastbamboo.org> wrote: > Interesting. Sounds very promising, Martin -- thanks. I'll give it a try. > > -Adam > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 7:41 PM, Martin Bestmann <martin(a)poleposition-sw.com> wrote: > > > > On 27.11.2007, at 13:16, Adam Fisk wrote: > > > > > Someone mentioned the issue with not being able to call "open > > > myApp.app" in a postflight script because Leopard notices it's > > > downloaded from the Internet. I'm seeing the same thing with > > > launchctl. > > > > > > Anyone know a way to launch your program after the install on Leopard? > > > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > The problem is that Apple attaches to those files coming from the > > internet an extended attribute. Run this from terminal to see it > > > > xattr -l myApp.app > > > > Once attribute is removed with > > > > xattr -d com.apple.quarantine myApp.app > > > > You can launch it without user interaction. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Martin > > > > PS.: Apple heavily uses now extended attributes for various things in > > Leopard. > > > > > > > -- > http://www.littleshoot.org > Open Source, Open Standards, Open Data > -- http://www.littleshoot.org Open Source, Open Standards, Open Data _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Help! I'm blocked by downgrade.
by Stéphane Sudre 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, décembre 5, 2007, at 03:40 AM, jason xia wrote: 1. Checked "Allow Revert To Previous Version" in my package project. 4. Install test.pkg in folder A you can't continue, there is nothing to install. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I want to generate a install package which support downgrade, following is the steps I did: 2. Set the package version to " 2.2.2" and generate package test.pkg, copy to folder A. 3. Set the package version to "2.1.0" and generate package test.pkg, copy to folder B. 5. Install test.pkg in folder B, because I have selected "revert to previous version" I expected test.pkg in folder B can be installed, but I got error message: All package contains the same application and the application has the same version.plist Anyone knows why this happened? I tend to believe this is a bug in Mac OS X 10.4.11. Some people reported this issue for a package I have to support. The only possible workaround was to remove the receipt for the package. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Help! I'm blocked by downgrade.
by jason xia 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

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