December 2008 - Installer-dev

RE: Installer not working from an SMB share
by Adam Peck 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acll6+IJVRxq43nUQrqMbMjV+WXqLQACL3Lg Thread-topic: Installer not working from an SMB share You can always create a DMG and mount it from the share to install it. Adam -----Original Message----- From: installer-dev-bounces+adampeck=smarttech.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+adampeck=smarttech.com@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Iceberg-Dev Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:20 AM To: Naveena Chandra Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: Installer not working from an SMB share On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Naveena Chandra wrote: > Hi, > > I'm building a Packagemaker based installer. It works fine in all > cases except when launched from a SMB share. > > When i place this installer in a SMB shared volume and connect to > this share from a Mac, the installer when launched, launches to put > up this dialog: > > "The Package cannot be installed from network volume. Copy the > package to a local volume and try again". > > So is it that the packagemaker was never designed to work from a > SMB network share? Or am i missing out on something? It's not working from any network volumes. There used to be good reasons for this with the old package format and because of problems with Appleshare. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/adampeck%40smarttec h.com This email sent to adampeck(a)smarttech.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer not working from an SMB share
by Iceberg-Dev 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=4ICOAl5brV0QUTAVCJd2/01i8oh8QLvZBEiUbJ5wpDw=; b=ie4f/wsmPLobLG+ruoC3lEnI2cJF35cWq48OdOm6PIrXds46a7sElOs48msuOohGcK a0KL4q9sOfjtBvIKGyctNAXDZ+3Kys0cGmcY26aTBgH8A2uLZ88QUQU+neeP2Bl6ecSG aZk+KgaBbMBdGkrFgb0+ILRrFcTelc4C6eeUU= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=P6K5DVphnsexYnvFSaqDAG87Fu/VTARmXGYzBTiZaIceCCMOoakB4QY78F743tSMOm UvbSycUmKveIxsxdBVCduxeFMN+HyZiK8ZjbDLdW+4qi6Ir/rRy8/+BfuwVqGeyui6YS Ap0mRSFDdDPmzAY1/LQhbYk06nLxiFdB4EUU8= On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Naveena Chandra wrote: Hi, It's not working from any network volumes. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm building a Packagemaker based installer. It works fine in all cases except when launched from a SMB share. When i place this installer in a SMB shared volume and connect to this share from a Mac, the installer when launched, launches to put up this dialog: "The Package cannot be installed from network volume. Copy the package to a local volume and try again". So is it that the packagemaker was never designed to work from a SMB network share? Or am i missing out on something? There used to be good reasons for this with the old package format and because of problems with Appleshare. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Documentation on the flat package format
by Philip Aker 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 2008-12-23, at 14:28:27, Iceberg-Dev wrote: It's a work in progress. Thanks a lot. It's real nice to have an overview. Philip Aker echo astwta@lvpc.dslh@nl | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Considering Apple is not interested in providing documentation on the new flat package format, let's just write it and even document hidden features. http://s.sudre.free.fr/Stuff/Ivanhoe/FLAT.html This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Installer not working from an SMB share
by Naveena Chandra 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

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Documentation on the flat package format
by Iceberg-Dev 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

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Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by Iceberg-Dev 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=kl4FA5Tg+BoaeNKyR4gj+0HNhMe1PvQOAY5x+p0xIgw=; b=pPCeDPxvr68wn/+xg7dqdeIr67kqEP0w+PZQXXbkHeySXuVJPsHsjKwqX7S0BRy5JG 8VUNgt1HFGXRQOktsT/9FznV4Akd6Y/ZYesB/fSOI302R8pE/gdY3XMxIwvD8klcRwZQ b6mAeTayZa42QmS8PbYdvfJ9+7JrZYraiEb/4= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kUJCnqB2eZ/QmMCNST/fzNNSMpsNZnb/QCbq4EH0d0GeE3rS6SVXFL4pe1wpSMBcRc IYM9iWJj79LpdrC8nu6HJpXR+vYayhhV2JPKd7gsCViihFrqbP2XDAjR7dPM8twYHYR2 LqsDnsaZqOFwHSbEO8K0URcy5278Gim4kL1o0= On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Adam Mercer wrote: When building the meta-package in the requirements tab of the Leopard only package I add a check for System OS being greater or equal to 10.5.0, as shown in the following screen shot: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/requirements.png> When building, and running, the installer on Leopard the Leopard only package is greyed out and not able to be selected: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/installer.png> You mention Javascript, I'm not using Javascript to do a version check, how can I do this? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:09, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: If >= is the comparator you use in the Javascript requirement, this could be the origin of the issue. To compare OS version, you need to use the appropriate function: compareVersions. Could you post your requirement to confirm this? Just checked and PackageMaker creates a Javascript requirement that is incorrect when it comes to OS versions. As I wrote, you need to fix it using the compareVersions method. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by Adam Mercer 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

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upgrade/clean install (was Re: CFBundleID)
by Bill Coderre 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com (And no, I am not announcing an iChat update.) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Everette Clemmer wrote: Does anyone have a good idea of how the information presented in http://lists.apple.com/archives/Installer-dev/2005/Oct/msg00003.html works? I’ve been testing some different ideas I’ve had about editing the receipt CFBundleID property in the Info.plist file to see if I can force an upgrade/clean install, and it seems like changes made to the receipt outside of the installation process either have no effect whatsoever or they bork something enough that it causes a clean install in all cases. I’ve found the Hints.plist method (hack?) to be the most effective at preserving an installed app, but I don’t know how sustainable that approach is given that there appears to be very little information on it and nothing official that I’ve seen in the PM or Installer.app documentation. First of all, it is reasonable to expect that installers will stay binary-compatible for the foreseeable future. So the (undocumented) "hints" stuff will probably work for a long time, if you do use it. HOWEVER, when I do installers for Apple, I try not to rely on hints. Instead, • I pick CFBundleIDs that match package name (com.apple.pkg.iChat goes with iChat.pkg), • I pick descriptive package names for "full" installers, (iChat.pkg installs iChat) • I add a version, if the package is an "incremental" upgrade package (iChat51.pkg upgrades iChat to version 5.1) In this way, I have never run into problems yet. If there are files that are obsolete, I make a list of them and then delete them during preflight. There are times when I have to use hints -- for example, to avoid deleting a font that's no longer being shipped. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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CFBundleID
by Everette Clemmer 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

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Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by henri 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 19/12/2008, at 10:47 PM, Adam Mercer wrote: Henri Cheers Adam _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… There probably is a way to make package maker do what you want. However, if I was in your situation I would deal with this by writing a pre or post hook script. Perhaps someone else on the list will be able to provide you with some instructions for using PackageMaker. Thanks, thats an option, but surely PackageMaker should be able to do this? On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 00:23, henri <henri(a)stmargarets.school.nz> wrote: > One way (probably not the best) would be to have a script which determines > the OS you are installing onto and then uses the install command to install > the various packages. > > I hope this helps. > >> Hi >> >> I'm trying to make an installer using PackageMaker that installs a >> series of different packages that I've already created but am running >> into a little Tiger/Leopard issue. I have in total 8 different >> packages that need to be included in the meta-package and the problem >> I am having is that one of them requires Leopard whereas all the >> others will run on both Tiger and Leopard. >> >> My goal is to have a single installer that can be used on both Tiger >> and Leopard giving the option of installing all packages on Leopard, >> and all but the Leopard only package on Tiger. To do this I build all >> packages with a minium target of Tiger and then in the meta-package >> added the requirement that the System OS should be >= 10.5.0 for the >> package that requires Leopard. If I then build and run this installer >> on Leopard the package that has the requirement of System OS >= 10.5.0 >> is greyed out and I am unable to select it. >> >> I have also tried building this Leopard only package with a minimum >> target of Leopard, but they I am unable to use this package in the >> meta-package as when building I get an warning stating that "No >> payload could be found. The package will not be built." I also get >> this error if I put the version check into the Leopard only package >> itself. >> >> Surely it must be possible to do this. Can anyone offer any pointers? >> >> Cheers >> >> Adam >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/henri%40stmargarets.sc… >> >> This email sent to henri(a)stmargarets.school.nz > > This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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