December 2008 - Installer-dev

packagemaker(1) command line
by Shay Ohayon 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

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RE: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by Glover,David 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AclilKkG+G/k+l2KRCO/X5VNXHH/ggBqLwMg Thread-topic: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages When PackageMaker creates your package, it will be creating it as a distribution package rather than a metapackage because it has requirements in it etc... There are 3 types of package, all the info can be found here; http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/Softw areDistribution/Introduction/chapter_1_section_1.html In a distribution package, requirement checking is carried out by a XML and Javascript file called a .dist file which resides in the Contents folder of your package. When you add requirements in PackageMaker, it generates them into the .dist file as Javascript functions. More info on the XML .dist file and a Javascript reference can be found here; http://developer.apple.com/reference/DeveloperTools/idxFilesSoftwareInst allation-date.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30001281-TP30000436-TP30000524 Once PackageMaker creates these .dist files, it can often require some manual intervention to correct it's mistakes :o) -----Original Message----- From: installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com@lists.app le.com] On Behalf Of Adam Mercer Sent: 20 December 2008 11:18 To: Installer-Dev mailing-list Subject: Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:09, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If >= is the comparator you use in the Javascript requirement, this could be > the origin of the issue. To compare OS version, you need to use the > appropriate function: compareVersions. > > Could you post your requirement to confirm this? When building the meta-package in the requirements tab of the Leopard only package I add a check for System OS being greater or equal to 10.5.0, as shown in the following screen shot: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/requirements.png> When building, and running, the installer on Leopard the Leopard only package is greyed out and not able to be selected: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/installer.png> You mention Javascript, I'm not using Javascript to do a version check, how can I do this? Cheers Adam _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/david.glover%40prom etheanworld.com This email sent to david.glover(a)prometheanworld.com Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 ______________________________________________ Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies. This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 5TH, UK. Please update your records accordingly. Thank you! ***************************************************************** This email has been checked by the e-Sweeper Service ***************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Contract Mac packagers
by Kevin Bernstein 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

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Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by Adam Mercer 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7IRMTouL/5OffMD66n1oiTjt4Edx8Lj3lYS0rpBQjV4=; b=jbOtw9hexuzX4oNQ19mUNfpni+689d9AVvhLIzttnvhOpYEnaED9ZAyJNyALT/KWcQ CwNEuKhVb9zzJSqOTvzY04S/QbTTYfSamKqpfJvQpEdlDyAT14u9k1lms/iaEWEG5Fl4 1jnAe6GVid+LsB22ViaWfN0yn8CIMaTNrkAx4= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=vycT3oOCc7IhzeqHgkkdHzYx21jUZt5iXEv58DVoNL2NEutGjlX0ezWId1+nguue0d aktQ+TAf0mfPzLqCvgrH6HkEi6jW52kQxKdC3VWDvhCuJNSuOWQ2Epd4ou6/Hlc9h5dc +KyRu+tPlZzd9C2Jfyd9gBnCYMkPvP0wI0vBw= On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:09, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If >= is the comparator you use in the Javascript requirement, this could be > the origin of the issue. To compare OS version, you need to use the > appropriate function: compareVersions. > > Could you post your requirement to confirm this? When building the meta-package in the requirements tab of the Leopard only package I add a check for System OS being greater or equal to 10.5.0, as shown in the following screen shot: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/requirements.png> When building, and running, the installer on Leopard the Leopard only package is greyed out and not able to be selected: <http://www.lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu/~ram/installer.png> You mention Javascript, I'm not using Javascript to do a version check, how can I do this? Cheers Adam _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Turning off relocation (a hack solution to a PackageMaker bug)
by Craig Schamp 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4xlRxgp1J74oZHMt4Yb030GIUe7wbgjyGV1bB3KdPQ8=; b=uNJXqg+hNOLik1IYKxy1r1ioLIGCNndTiQbbnGTZk+Ouw+TON6EOUr2OqjWvYzp3uj uSsqeKnLXpf52H8YGY4RhcoIf7a14ya+D3o2CC7rzADxBzWhhU98iLSEwCe5QHp39hEM k5pnvseUepPelPZXjbJIR7pDzjyGPZ5Be0OV0= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nJwIaDzluRXszruqSyURc5HKpomlyCkarJBhCuOz4CenxJuxHw3cUJVfiixFRhPRwa ARNVH+kTTZbkyutd+AKj9SNNZZPIwHf+STDMavErqSkHLnA7O1KsIibOZRjdErSgCJC8 UKe8u3rS4qewrrrKtgDpdSayqQryXY8uTGqHk= On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Craig Schamp wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: >> >>> Installer has a Locator, which uses TokenDefinifitions to automatically >>> find, say, an app that the user has dragged out of its original spot. >>> There's also a "relocation" flag that allows the user, during >>> installation, >>> to decide where to install, say, the many gigs of Jam Pack Loops. >>> My previous solution solved this second problem, so we need to solve the >>> first one, also. >>> So, to turn off LOCATOR: >>> In a FLAT package, you need to get rid of the <relocate> and <locator> >>> tokens from the PackageInfo file, which is an XML file in disguise. >> >> I'm trying to remove the "locator" and "relocate" options in a flat >> package created with PackageMaker 3.0.3, and although I see the >> LOCATOR feature in action (a trashed copy of my app gets updated *in >> the trash* by the installer), I can't see the "locator" and "relocate" >> options in any PackageInfo file in the package. What am I missing? > > They can be in 2 locations: > > - in the Package itself. > > - in the distribution script (that is if you're ending up with a FLAT > metapackage) > > I tend to remember PackageMaker favors the second solution. > > My $0.02 Ah! Thanks. I didn't think to look in the Distribution script. I see it now. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: recommended permissions/owner/group for application delivery in the manual method?
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=qEW/djmKR4f034a/LawsvrHkvjHuux/yhFHTOpOja7k=; b=LOYNcOoSMOoT7TMKXOdhWdXB7IhFey8fwDbTKV+2iwZIurIPbaA2FcqRJJJcD6DvnC 7NH+g5E2pXXoPt/0GmAKtDkqBHg9QhE6rA0Xitz0cPjr9SnvzbE0sE7prsapYRJVUlOa P5SwSMSNSe2C3mFaB6aNVYwmlFtdhZnKk47A8= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pBuwFg5rxxKKtldMZxpu7g2s71Ta6VI9hiSDNBSRZ5fQHJ2TtxD66L20Wxyze2zZ1V oamllr1lHUC6ZlbkxMKPd9KgzXWwGPzmZRdhFY84xnvStVGK3c/nkPHux4uCvNUC6SYc T1XUj8njXs2ByuTI9pUFNWkQlxQ9GlCN8DikQ= On Dec 15, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Greg Neagle wrote: You're right about root/admin. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… But once the user drags it to /Applications, it will be owned by the user. Which is not correct and which is why drag and drop installation is not perfect. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Do I want to install for all users? How is this dialog displayed?
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ERPkJNLjvyNLfKUdFj2XHo+Ua6pYAiX4Uhqv8ca0G0s=; b=DUJHPpi5FIsAmpCEdPpeIXQVnUshxsbK62+fU/bqsVQWNk8cRlsxcOF6GSyDTsPddj NRZsGBADEbUPELxHg1GuctxRSUNapa7s3lCVlkPvBNVsqkWmf6Q225K0Sw6KiNLfCuIg +t842U9ETskOGBo7TfIkmSRaIGW2X/NFwEUXE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tKpQ8uG0DgQcrJj6Qi+7pLREKOqaQcKr7xa8gvLHMir4syEUA6jPX2Fe2mZD9IXTs4 PWVDEfcU9Ex77j+UUQsat6y8GbqoY3p1HWHa/cTs3UlVK8QYewtbuFF9k0mUshrUjNez LqJYQzIvjEWRwV2kD2bTXoqelOJku0BxN9YqA= On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:00 AM, OSullivan, Steve wrote: Hello, Here's the mechanism: 1. Take a coin 2. Toss it 3. If it's head, you will see the dialog, if it's tail, you won't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… When I run my package (PackageMaker 3.0.1) which is configured for OS 10.5.x or above, sometimes I will get a panel in the installer dialog that asks me if I want to install this software for all users, and sometimes I do not get this panel. Can someone please tell me what the mechanism is that determines when and if this panel will be displayed? What you're describing looks like a known bug in Installer.app that sometimes display the list of volumes and sometimes does not when you have set the package to be installed on the startup volume only. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker and Tiger/Leopard Packages
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=hEGjNrCtFtcRGXp9/8MKvWoNj/2w3erXGzDtJ/ZDK0U=; b=wRipGCM6/cEu0WwFscPgy80WRnQQuNREPm9aSrxEo00GnzjIXJ+Ez/anHI0OBHLKf7 4EqnDtO3PNRDgH1eO3RtwVYthEFYDwUbMQv+tAqyfMejYtLvWB/69SOhin9BcDnHgBNN 4i3koohZtqN/9G8uEJpIolTffinj6DKAHsFME= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=vVNV7855yu1Me9jDFEzoB199zna9cyIT/BlD9qTQV2W7Lnf5SGCAGj4PZr0ytg8PAR DRcpyzvkphbJf1SCW3U+gt8lh94rORXhShrKmDTI9FQd3cYST0dAT/bWpr19aUYIGyMm PviOQPt1yr6ZYu1cJCFpk83ysLNGh+1xRFP34= On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Adam Mercer wrote: Hi I'm trying to make an installer using PackageMaker that installs a series of different packages that I've already created but am running into a little Tiger/Leopard issue. I have in total 8 different packages that need to be included in the meta-package and the problem I am having is that one of them requires Leopard whereas all the others will run on both Tiger and Leopard. My goal is to have a single installer that can be used on both Tiger and Leopard giving the option of installing all packages on Leopard, and all but the Leopard only package on Tiger. To do this I build all packages with a minium target of Tiger and then in the meta-package added the requirement that the System OS should be >= 10.5.0 for the package that requires Leopard. Could you post your requirement to confirm this? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… If >= is the comparator you use in the Javascript requirement, this could be the origin of the issue. To compare OS version, you need to use the appropriate function: compareVersions. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: There is nothing to install
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=2iuPP2UzqXF+iQ3XZZWz3xihBDbubk2SbcjlfjhPBQk=; b=YXHv+lziIKBVyv7iPuBfJkTT57+HPgbSPjB1ZqjbPFZBQgizOWj6QmxUbqCNnxJvCn 7DB/Ru2aJkmpazZ+lwc0vHRFjhXyBVM2/XNoqxNzC2f2iL7L8v+UfkR0y9Z5WsbI3O+1 dNBd8YKKSAM9m3rZf7lqJiXZVfFK1CND50kOs= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=v6hFK+1+6q0/3+WA3qCOIFnwlvFFsr+7rcVrO5UWQANG1RuY0BK9E47rNDhfHhu7lG kg7Giljw7tGMTIbPJ7BHGwZVd9HcZuwOuNvDF5dANHrqHze4cRxSWc18/P0Jq3IFXnP9 sPtM0t90BRpsLSEAlhdg3sl2KphkvMHaEgSy0= On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Everette Clemmer wrote: 4 solutions: - if you want to provide just the difference between the 2 versions: - if you don't mind providing all the files in the update package: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… NVM, found the answer at http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer- dev/2006/Feb/msg00003.html My next question is how to prevent Installer.app from doing a destructive copy when attempting to upgrade an already installed application. As things stand now, my installed app is completely wiped out when I run my patch. - if you're using the FLAT package format, you can create a patch package. - if you're not using the FLAT package, use a unique ID and name for your installation package. - if you want to play with undocumented feature, there are options in the old format to tell Installer.app not to remove files if they are no more in the newer version of a package. You would need to look into the archive of the mailing list. I maybe something like a hintlist or something. - just keep the same ID and name for the package, increase the version and let Installer.app do its magic. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Turning off relocation (a hack solution to a PackageMaker bug)
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=YExBnxdE8UdVX58C0HJSkQJB1iThbZMC43BMWv/BPcA=; b=GLIP1QNZuxNDDc5d6Nzkz0i96bsMt+N1/d1MCrg+z8yHE0BpvkoZVCEjxxGY8h2iWW ZfFVgLThMLK3JxwExobtEjwPPYkDpPJwcKBvU2KRkt8I4xJrisdJyaAQEhjop5tcsmk7 Bukj3QGzZpWKG7L8AYyxqomRUX7zoy9l8+wj0= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=iBrfdejbWXiJDWutJYu/kszmR9p5xbvIm12Zitstjbn9QQXSToU5wbueEc4v/d+99z pySvNyaU4w79RXtFp5Kjyv5gOC8tqVxGAcNtO+dUO4l7EyqFU9EB4kIFZ4RM1RL9Onwz BdfWHwJLYv2vkgnhI9prvQ4pAe6xixCCKUwB4= On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Craig Schamp wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: I'm trying to remove the "locator" and "relocate" options in a flat package created with PackageMaker 3.0.3, and although I see the LOCATOR feature in action (a trashed copy of my app gets updated *in the trash* by the installer), I can't see the "locator" and "relocate" options in any PackageInfo file in the package. What am I missing? They can be in 2 locations: - in the Package itself. I tend to remember PackageMaker favors the second solution. My $0.02 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Installer has a Locator, which uses TokenDefinifitions to automatically find, say, an app that the user has dragged out of its original spot. There's also a "relocation" flag that allows the user, during installation, to decide where to install, say, the many gigs of Jam Pack Loops. My previous solution solved this second problem, so we need to solve the first one, also. So, to turn off LOCATOR: In a FLAT package, you need to get rid of the <relocate> and <locator> tokens from the PackageInfo file, which is an XML file in disguise. - in the distribution script (that is if you're ending up with a FLAT metapackage) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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