December 2008 - Installer-dev

How to create a no payload uninstaller package?
by Steve O'Sullivan 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello All, Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed? Regards, Steve O'Sullivan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… A few weeks ago someone mentioned to me (through this list) that one way to make an uninstaller was with PackageMaker. What was suggested was to create a pmdoc with no payload, and to then attach a postinstall script that does the actual removal of the software. I have tried this to no avail. It seems that I cannot add a postinstall script without a payload. I am stuck. I am using PackageMaker 3.0.1 and have read through the User's Guide several times while building my packages. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: some alarming PackageMaker / Installer behaviour
by Craig Schamp 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GLekwIji55GggsMGBXm1GLBme3ufkUxq+sT+YdJUD40=; b=U4QQQ29bCOt5DM/fcR519gBvqRKyETaYqpnrFg6LxExHCksDqwK4rhZ92ifus0Ss4e v13tNzj/e+EDLSwGrKxRL4Vjsi8l9pUQEtKkb8eurInsse/qYrWBoRBRvMdmhZ5nRaIo 3s1o0ynXOF440VHjGsfWwtB3FoW0DHqLijKgc= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Z4Z4JqBrrEeINJb8GxvHqsCglaIPuf3HqotArfdfUhTi5zx+TP7y5Ow54IVujb9xiJ /+3PTTZ+D1oaEOk9kJLVCZuBm0bB6lHFRZ9+uaORQCFaGaZ2Z977wIl1Fa9zw5caPgMt 9VwmXuB/8GLyT85kF6vs5j7VKBpRlekJQusGM= On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:17 AM, Jason Proctor wrote: >> >> anyone from the Apple package maker or installer teams on this list? state >> your case. my support for the Mac platform is in question thanks to this >> situation. > > There are bugs with PackageMaker concerning relocatability. PackageMaker > 3.0.3 was released recently, with changes to try to fix some of those bugs. Bill, Can you elaborate on these changes in 3.0.3, or point me at more documentation on it? If this was documented in the release notes, forgive me for not catching it. I'd like to upgrade our automated build systems, and perhaps all developer machines, but can't do so without good justification. Knowing what changed in 3.0.3 will help make a case here. Thanks, - Craig Schamp Adobe Systems _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: recommended permissions/owner/group for application delivery in the manual method?
by Greg Neagle 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com 755 root/wheel. -Greg On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Chris Markle wrote: Hi, If we package our application using the manual method (dmg with .app and symlink to /Applications) what would be the recommended permissions, owner and group for the application? Thanks in advance. Chris _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneyan… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… But when the user drags it over, ownership and group will be the user and his/her GID, and permissions may also change depending on the user's umask. This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: plugins and permissions
by Karl Kuehn 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to wrap a re-written installer plugin (the licensing module for Final Cut Pro) in my own installer for internal use. But it needs to touch a file in a restricted space on the hard drive. The problem I am having is that no matter what requirements I put on the package (admin/root permissions) the plugin always seems to be run as the installing user rather than with elevated privileges. I have a rough work-around in place in running the plugin after the install phase runs with a script to pave the way, but this leaves the permissions in a state I am not completely happy with. I am using Iceberg to make my packages (can't seem to figure out how to do plugins in PackageMaker... didn't try long), and I have tried digging around the original installer to see if that is packaged any differently, but I have not found anything. Anyone have an insight for me? Installer Plugins are plugins for Installer.app so they are run with the current user permissions. A possible woraround is to have your plugins save some data in a place where a postflight script (or executable) could read it and do the job. I do get that the only portion of the install routine that Installer.app is elevating is the actual "install" phase, but think that that is a bit silly. I guess I will have to file an "enhancement request" with Apple on this point. And I can't actually modify where the plugin is saving things, since it is not really my plugin. I am raiding it from another installer to take care of a system imaging hole. But thanks for the responce. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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recommended permissions/owner/group for application delivery in the manual method?
by Chris Markle 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, If we package our application using the manual method (dmg with .app and symlink to /Applications) what would be the recommended permissions, owner and group for the application? Thanks in advance. Chris _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: plugins and permissions
by Iceberg-Dev 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=qJETBGCt6YIhawJWirbTk/5OhlxA59esSveainXQypY=; b=rltu6Tlqd1LnDIRfOp3ETpdK5bbusLyfTAYySr1kyPXNzGCm9OQkQtZmVe1htnV7CY rTVaADXVbqlyj0Ypu7LCgJdulNBGF8GmgQWDB1xTYoFIzlH1SCuJ9peaks/kI3fMLopy cd0pPwLz7XSt78p8WZeI6Yk+68JyuBFEa/tuA= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=f70xnaytyoWiR5VRiyreu9XZqWiZxE2XoPQglRGQhsKjPUtQ8YxsluEb6+3GEn+6iw SyL7vLjYudTs06u1Mif9agFf5K5GYSmrDoRX/ZQu4IOrhgXcq1hQkJ4O/UuthZOsWpj9 bgw15fvte2muED4Pk2QHeNbN9mAUXZRBC47XQ= On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Karl Kuehn wrote: I am trying to wrap a re-written installer plugin (the licensing module for Final Cut Pro) in my own installer for internal use. But it needs to touch a file in a restricted space on the hard drive. The problem I am having is that no matter what requirements I put on the package (admin/root permissions) the plugin always seems to be run as the installing user rather than with elevated privileges. I have a rough work-around in place in running the plugin after the install phase runs with a script to pave the way, but this leaves the permissions in a state I am not completely happy with. I am using Iceberg to make my packages (can't seem to figure out how to do plugins in PackageMaker... didn't try long), and I have tried digging around the original installer to see if that is packaged any differently, but I have not found anything. Anyone have an insight for me? Installer Plugins are plugins for Installer.app so they are run with the current user permissions. A possible woraround is to have your plugins save some data in a place where a postflight script (or executable) could read it and do the job. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Multiple Custom Panes
by Iceberg-Dev 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=aN1gA0tnWwOqKUdRdF1QAEde9xIO6jtUoddOXQ5mJjk=; b=nMBvLtxD0fvDhq7LgSypF6BBVf9RxPnYmBt9mF6JeC6bhh4nUmRjvgix7SUYuQhViV dZtc3yj31FrRIDD2e52ZlTttXbKQ1+qdqnu+tk7eto/siSLFlwV+tggI9OH2NQx9xmpW 5DOJFkQrTaod6EOd3B02yihQ1HK0jhc2Z6T0E= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pJ7PjJmVL/AO5bXxZ06u33kFlAs8TTrFK4/L7z0e15MdLXJTkGgLjj7HLPFi0t7Le6 tQwJv24LKbw4g2TmM7Wkgq4434rZYL9VA8fbip6zfuJnii+BaVNfJp5xus2jslKZalBq kz2SqKXBnnPClxDJly7kvsbXnJjobQe1b1GXE= On Dec 11, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Erik Benoist wrote: -Erik On Dec 10, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Erik Benoist wrote: You can have multiple panes and one plugin to rule them all. You have 2 classes: InstallerPane and InstallerSection. A section is represented by a bullet in the Installation Steps. See http://s.sudre.free.fr/Stuff/Installer/Installer_Plugins/index.html _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Is there any documentation on installersection? What methods need to be overidden, how each pane is progressed, etc...? On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:53 AM, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm developing an installer for a server application that takes a good deal of preferences before installation and while I can easily do this in a single pane, I would like to provide a pane for each preference so to be able to give ample instruction to the end user. Is it possible to have one plugin manage multiple panes or will I have to create a separate plugin for each. I'm afraid that this might be the case, but if there is indeed no work around, how can I share information between the panes? Is there a free pointer in the InstallerPane that I can use to pass information? I would like to avoid doing constant I/O to the disk between panes. A section can contain multiple InstallerPanes. The headers are the documentation. There's also a sample code on the ADC website: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Preflight failing
by Adam Peck 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

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Re: Preflight failing
by Gignac, Jason (HAS-SAT) 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

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RE: Preflight failing
by Adam Peck 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

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