December 2008 - Installer-dev

plugins and permissions
by Karl Kuehn 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Anyone have an insight for me? -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to wrap a re-written installer plugin (the licensing module for Final Cut Pro) in my own installer for internal use. But it needs to touch a file in a restricted space on the hard drive. The problem I am having is that no matter what requirements I put on the package (admin/root permissions) the plugin always seems to be run as the installing user rather than with elevated privileges. I have a rough work-around in place in running the plugin after the install phase runs with a script to pave the way, but this leaves the permissions in a state I am not completely happy with. I am using Iceberg to make my packages (can't seem to figure out how to do plugins in PackageMaker... didn't try long), and I have tried digging around the original installer to see if that is packaged any differently, but I have not found anything. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Preflight failing
by Adam Peck 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

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Re: Coding installer plugin in C++
by Luke Bellandi 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AclbocI7r/5mgbICQ2Cg4O1EUmn2owAFgSfJ Thread-topic: Coding installer plugin in C++ Hi John, In order: [1] Yes: you can use Objective-C++, you'll need to conform to the Objective-C plug-in interface, but any implementation code you like can be in C++. [2] Yes, use either NSTask (from In Foundation.framework in Objective-C), or use lower-level system calls and piping. [3] Nope. The Installer application runs very specific tasks as administrator. For the purposes of a third-party plug-in, you're living in the context of the launching user. - Luke On 12/11/08 7:07 AM, "john(a)camelaudio.com" <john(a)camelaudio.com> wrote: Hello All, I am working on developing an installer plugin that allows files in an external RAR file to be unpackaged. I have no experience of Objective-C but I am an experienced C/C++ developer so I would like to do the majority of the development work in C++. Can anyone tell me if this is possible please? I would also be interested to know if there is a simpler way to achieve what I am trying to do without resorting to opening up terminal windows. I assume that if the user has already entered an administrator password into the installer in order to install the files from the pkg file then my plugin would run with administrator rights as well and would not need to request an additional password. Am I right in this assumption? Thanks, John Proctor Camel Audio http://www.camelaudio.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40adobe.com This email sent to luke(a)adobe.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Multiple Custom Panes
by Erik Benoist 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=x5YHZodpr1DQFgT54DjUfAiIAgcAUotor1c1i95qzls=; b=FpGKH/LuA/d7oEYk+JiGpppVfp1squ8yUqSs/c8+xjBYSzrP5Ak7U56hV5Ym2V5ZT7 5auzf1hRY1YjKmIS8AE19yqV+gj9YXpbxmDctSQpp879QFNrW+QIg3Z6pYhVWcLxcuOK aR6lb150X/WWZMW0lELub0mD4n8a/ZAz4VzV8= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=xbKevo9S9Jv+y0psXhIr3L5eg+68dukVkB+V/KsBxYYVmce99zdGiNcsomqZwGyn4R yK0Ex1KH95wnnH1hp6bu5AASSke+ll5n8qPbgmCNVo9xQytg1pz7A1McCfgz4vrwkOwE 6vl0iRDvbbDhZ5wH/G368As8X3LfapUw4JAqk= -Erik On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:53 AM, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Dec 10, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Erik Benoist wrote: You can have multiple panes and one plugin to rule them all. You have 2 classes: InstallerPane and InstallerSection. A section is represented by a bullet in the Installation Steps. A section can contain multiple InstallerPanes. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Is there any documentation on installersection? What methods need to be overidden, how each pane is progressed, etc...? I'm developing an installer for a server application that takes a good deal of preferences before installation and while I can easily do this in a single pane, I would like to provide a pane for each preference so to be able to give ample instruction to the end user. Is it possible to have one plugin manage multiple panes or will I have to create a separate plugin for each. I'm afraid that this might be the case, but if there is indeed no work around, how can I share information between the panes? Is there a free pointer in the InstallerPane that I can use to pass information? I would like to avoid doing constant I/O to the disk between panes. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Coding installer plugin in C++
by john＠camelaudio.com 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) Hello All, Thanks, John Proctor Camel Audio http://www.camelaudio.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am working on developing an installer plugin that allows files in an external RAR file to be unpackaged. I have no experience of Objective-C but I am an experienced C/C++ developer so I would like to do the majority of the development work in C++. Can anyone tell me if this is possible please? I would also be interested to know if there is a simpler way to achieve what I am trying to do without resorting to opening up terminal windows. I assume that if the user has already entered an administrator password into the installer in order to install the files from the pkg file then my plugin would run with administrator rights as well and would not need to request an additional password. Am I right in this assumption? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Multiple Custom Panes
by Iceberg-Dev 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=DsO8tC+EwXtru8DeHjZ4mZfhFuZU8HipEKCS/lwtmWc=; b=afQbrK9r/xj9QGFtgVmJD4kXhjyO9gzEBKIDFAoc79Nni04whV4oFOt4TNQJEoNW5G mu76IgCIWmjBJau11qDRC2Fn7fnM1NALEMFAvVNI4PPFz/Qz/cTxewPLjyTqYiCjahQe 0qlMxKG7A7fTLYqac6fgYIU4pVRcnEuTWI/04= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Mvn2DZ7lICtcH+qtz9xO1xVz9AJ8deSX8yn1mFAmXdHGiLKpFgytST6gTRFpahEGyk DJZNGoX/og1GopdCqPzDC8+GcnPwD4Ub6NHGNs38s8XnbsdoXdLVimNIeG2RdxoQlTMl w1+KJCAsX+P89u44EllWZkHleYVK6mtggtIc8= On Dec 10, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Erik Benoist wrote: You can have multiple panes and one plugin to rule them all. You have 2 classes: InstallerPane and InstallerSection. A section is represented by a bullet in the Installation Steps. A section can contain multiple InstallerPanes. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm developing an installer for a server application that takes a good deal of preferences before installation and while I can easily do this in a single pane, I would like to provide a pane for each preference so to be able to give ample instruction to the end user. Is it possible to have one plugin manage multiple panes or will I have to create a separate plugin for each. I'm afraid that this might be the case, but if there is indeed no work around, how can I share information between the panes? Is there a free pointer in the InstallerPane that I can use to pass information? I would like to avoid doing constant I/O to the disk between panes. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Seeking tips on packaging with PackageBuilder to get close to my apps existing Vise-base install experience?
by Chris Markle 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Pretty new to PackageBuilder here... Sending this out in hopes of getting some tips that might save me some time and keep me from running into brick walls. We've inherited this app that's today packaged using some release of Vise. The installation package has some nice properties where if an admin user installs it, it can easily go into /Applications but if a standard user installs it, it goes smoothly into ~/Applications. It does this without prompting for admin passwords unless really necessary. And it manages to do this on 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 (not sure I care about 10.3 moving forward but I do care about 10.5). Looking for idea of how I can simulate this behavior as closely as possible with an installation package built with PackageBuilder. I have the 3.0.3 verison of PackageBuilder on OS X 10.5.5. I've been playing with making the install destination System Volume or User Home Directory and using the /Applications target. On 10.5 this basically gives the user a choice of "install for all user" or "install for one user" and this seems to work reasonably well. I am not checking "require admin authorization" as it seems that that always prompts for the admin password, no matter what (not sure of that however). On 10.4 the resulting installer can't go into the User Home Dir and only goes into system volume. But the 10.4 install being installed by a non-admin user would require me to have that admin password prompting enabled. Is there a reasonable way to make an install package the works more closely to the Vise case, for both 10.4 and 10.5. Another question: In the 10.5 case where we can "install for all" or "install for one" it seems that the default is always install for one. Can the default be more dynamic based on the perms of the user so e.g., if they have admin privs, the default would be "install for all" but if they have "standard" privs the default would be "install for one"? Any help on these questions us really appreciated and thanks in advance... Chris _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker automation
by Craig Schamp 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

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Re: PackageMaker automation
by Jeremy Matthews 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -jeremy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… If it helps any, I use the old PM version (3.0.1 - not sure which specific rev) for all the scripting and automation, while I use the 3.0.3 version to manage the gui stuff. I set everything using the GUI, then I script the bejeezus out of everything else...using the older version to link against. Works great...since the old versions' GUI continually lost paths, and the new version chokes on some scripting! Two copies...use both together! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Multiple Custom Panes
by Erik Benoist 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

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