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Re: How to replace old version of product?
by Bill Coderre 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I assume I have to configure the Patch button in each component's Configuration pane. I've seen this behavior in lots of other product installers. It is definitely not a good user experience, yet it seems to be growing increasingly common. Most of my Apple product groups don't care that much. For them that do, I do touch /Applications/MyGreatApp.app touch /Applications On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote: on 2008-06-23 12:38 PM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: on 2008-06-23 8:45 AM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: I have everything working nicely -- except that my installer won't replace an older version of my product if it finds one installed. Or do I simply have to write a preinstall script and remove older versions of components myself? CORRECTION. I was fooled by the failure of the Finder's Get Info version and copyright notice to update. When I actually launched my newly- installed application, it turned out to be the new version, having successfully replaced the old version. But I had to log out and back in to get the Finder to display the correct version and copyright info. Why can't PackageMaker/Installer handle this? It's easy enough to write code to force Finder to update. So, unless and until this issue is fixed, do I have to write a postinstall script to force the Finder to update? Can anybody tell me off the top of your head how to do this in a shell script? I believe, although I have no proof, that in certain circumstances NOTHING can make the Finder update its GetInfo stuff. It looks like the 10.5 Installer.app also does this now. At least, that's what the log says. (Thank goodness touch is really really fast. Sometimes I end up touching /Application a whole bunch of times.) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [Q] Is there a way to log what a postinstallation shell script does?
by Stéphane Sudre 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello. I wrote a post installation script like : #!/bin/sh echo $1 echo $SCRIPT_NAME sudo -u $USER osascript $1/Contents/Resources/Add_Login_Item.scpt exit 0 The content of the Add_Login_item.scpt is : The path is the installed path of the interested application. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Le Jun 24, 2008 à 12:19 AM, JongAm Park a écrit : tell application "System Events" make new login item at end with properties { path:"/ Library.......", hidden:flase} end tell However, nothing happens. Also, although I put the echo $1 and so on, I couldn't see the echoed information from the console. So I don't know what is happening. Where are you looking for the output? Console.app or Installer.app log window? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [Q] Is there a way to log what a postinstallation shell script does?
by JongAm Park 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PfOOTLIay++KnNaVNCYie/YhDcwnS6ShkrlqdzAkheD+Vn3umkHITITO4TabjJeHx6sZ4ajzrVhxKmsHcTFZzJ0lhFZ/hZ9uWldhC+Q26DsBcROdRX3CsNbNFPd8/Ty8Dw/4HuM4qTgV5/djpvANMqnvGyKFJ6pwoXay3LP80W8= ; User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Hmm... it doesn't seem to invoke anything... I tried changing the post installation script to : open -b com.apple.TextEdit But, after it installs a file, it doesn't invoke the TextEdit... So.. is the PackageMaker broken? Hello. I wrote a post installation script like : #!/bin/sh echo $1 echo $SCRIPT_NAME sudo -u $USER osascript $1/Contents/Resources/Add_Login_Item.scpt exit 0 The content of the Add_Login_item.scpt is : The path is the installed path of the interested application. Can anyone tell me what can be wrong and how to fix it? Or is it prohibited to install a log in item like this? Thank you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… JongAm Park wrote: tell application "System Events" make new login item at end with properties { path:"/Library.......", hidden:flase} end tell However, nothing happens. Also, although I put the echo $1 and so on, I couldn't see the echoed information from the console. So I don't know what is happening. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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[Q] Is there a way to log what a postinstallation shell script does?
by JongAm Park 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VzkdLYBh3G5xaU3jefE+MHRHiP/qf7ijT0KsAjLOQ4t5SKz+rU4WJWY91CxzZLX4MCOsPw0DTP2ujpM7M/ozaoHz6yF5ISJtJmekjg8pmNhpLTWEBtPyXDnPkpNd69v0boAedqvhTK4Xly6nvH3CrFsiwtvRiPCS4Fmd4VzGT2g= ; User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Hello. I wrote a post installation script like : #!/bin/sh echo $1 echo $SCRIPT_NAME sudo -u $USER osascript $1/Contents/Resources/Add_Login_Item.scpt exit 0 The content of the Add_Login_item.scpt is : The path is the installed path of the interested application. Can anyone tell me what can be wrong and how to fix it? Or is it prohibited to install a log in item like this? Thank you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… tell application "System Events" make new login item at end with properties { path:"/Library.......", hidden:flase} end tell However, nothing happens. Also, although I put the echo $1 and so on, I couldn't see the echoed information from the console. So I don't know what is happening. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to replace old version of product?
by Bill Cheeseman 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjVc515Y/ZuPTxWR2GWZKXmoO1spA== Thread-topic: How to replace old version of product? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 on 2008-06-23 4:39 PM, Stéphane Sudre at iceberg-dev(a)orange.fr wrote: >> I'm thinking of a postinstall script something like this: >> >> osascript -e "tell application \"Finder\" to update POSIX file >> \"<fullpath>\"" >> >> Is there a way to do that without resorting to AppleScript? I >> suspect not. > > touch /full/path ? I had looked at that, but it seems to be limited to updating the file dates. I'm not sure I want to do that. But I'll experiment with it and see what happens. -- Bill Cheeseman - bill(a)cheeseman.name Quechee Software, Quechee, Vermont, USA www.quecheesoftware.com PreFab Software - www.prefabsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to control component package names?
by Stéphane Sudre 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com on 2008-06-22 12:02 PM, Stéphane Sudre at iceberg-dev(a)orange.fr wrote: You would need to modify 2 things: - the name of the packages No comments. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote: You can manually change this using the FLAT Package Editor. I've avoided the Flat Package Editor so far because there aren't any instructions for it. And "Help isn't available for Flat Package Editor." So, at your suggestion, I opened the Flat Package Editor, then opened my finished installer package into it. I then changed the names of the two component packages by changing the capitalization, and saved. When I ran the modified installer, it failed because it couldn't find the software to install. - the distribution file so that the .pkg names are correct inside the <pkg-ref id></pkg-ref> tags. I suppose I could also have gone into the generated installer script and changed all references to these names. But I kind of hate to take a chance on the modified installer working correctly out in the wild, without assurances from somebody inside Apple that this will work correctly in all respects. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to replace old version of product?
by Stéphane Sudre 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm thinking of a postinstall script something like this: osascript -e "tell application \"Finder\" to update POSIX file \"<fullpath>\"" touch /full/path ? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Jun 23, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Bill Cheeseman wrote: on 2008-06-23 1:04 PM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: So, unless and until this issue is fixed, do I have to write a postinstall script to force the Finder to update? Can anybody tell me off the top of your head how to do this in a shell script? Is there a way to do that without resorting to AppleScript? I suspect not. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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[Q] How to add a program as a login item after installing?
by JongAm Park 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cj4+f9iLfR3VPLSVO4GfLgx7YWOBP4l0jKM7lraP2O42br9B8QaisxZncv37gm9tJtqBnntukBOpE0zmFuBXV+vFl+7Huum0T9HtgswIJ51EgwKgJ3Xe0xuFb2a+Ue9pxTnq5h1ri0S/atOweQhuJihA/go5UB6B+rDTaCpcxAI= ; User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Hello, all. Are there any people who have this kind of problem? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Today, I have strange problem with the PackageMaker. When I tried put an AppleScript app, which is edited using the Script Editor and saved as .app ( not bundle ), using the PackageMaker, the AppleScript app is changed to Classic OS app, and it complains that it can't launch it, when I click it. Also, I tried saving it as a script and tried issuing "osascript .." in a shell script file, which is set as a postinstall script, it does nothing. it doesn't even put some log message into the console. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to replace old version of product?
by Bill Cheeseman 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjVLvekrl3l/kgpReC/0ygrUSEd7wAII8cQAADsVa4AAXxH2g== Thread-topic: How to replace old version of product? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 on 2008-06-23 1:04 PM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: > So, unless and until this issue is fixed, do I have to write a postinstall > script to force the Finder to update? Can anybody tell me off the top of > your head how to do this in a shell script? I'm thinking of a postinstall script something like this: osascript -e "tell application \"Finder\" to update POSIX file \"<fullpath>\"" Is there a way to do that without resorting to AppleScript? I suspect not. -- Bill Cheeseman - bill(a)cheeseman.name Quechee Software, Quechee, Vermont, USA www.quecheesoftware.com PreFab Software - www.prefabsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to replace old version of product?
by Bill Cheeseman 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjVLvekrl3l/kgpReC/0ygrUSEd7wAII8cQAADsVa4= Thread-topic: How to replace old version of product? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 on 2008-06-23 12:38 PM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: > on 2008-06-23 8:45 AM, William J. Cheeseman at bill(a)cheeseman.name wrote: > >> I have everything working nicely -- except that my installer won't replace >> an older version of my product if it finds one installed. >> >> I assume I have to configure the Patch button in each component's >> Configuration pane. > > Or do I simply have to write a preinstall script and remove older versions > of components myself? CORRECTION. I was fooled by the failure of the Finder's Get Info version and copyright notice to update. When I actually launched my newly-installed application, it turned out to be the new version, having successfully replaced the old version. But I had to log out and back in to get the Finder to display the correct version and copyright info. I've seen this behavior in lots of other product installers. It is definitely not a good user experience, yet it seems to be growing increasingly common. Why can't PackageMaker/Installer handle this? It's easy enough to write code to force Finder to update. So, unless and until this issue is fixed, do I have to write a postinstall script to force the Finder to update? Can anybody tell me off the top of your head how to do this in a shell script? (Getting more frustrated by the minute.) -- Bill Cheeseman - bill(a)cheeseman.name Quechee Software, Quechee, Vermont, USA www.quecheesoftware.com PreFab Software - www.prefabsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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