October 2009 - Installer-dev

Re: PackageMaker madness with relocation / Snow Leopard
by Mario Emmenlauer 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) So should I create a bugreport for that? Am I the first to encounter this relocation error on Snow Leopard? We can't support Snow Leopard unless this issue gets fixed :-( Cheers, Mario Sorry for leaving this out, I have tried all releases of PackageMaker that came with XCode 3.1, 3.1.1, 3.1.2, 3.1.3 (on Leopard), and 3.2 (on Snow Leopard). All Packages used to behave the same on Leopard, meaning I needed to remove 'IFPkgPathMappings' from the finished package in order to avoid relocation. I have tried only the packages from XCode 3.1.3 and 3.2 on Snow Leopard, they behave identical (i.e., on Leopard they do not relocate after removing 'IFPkgPathMappings', on Snow Leopard 10.6.0 and 10.6.1 they relocate my application). Cheers, Mario On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Hi, we release software quarterly, and customers install new releases side-by-side with old releases. With PackageMaker 3.0 and Tiger / Leopard, we had to apply an ugly workaround to PackageMaker to strip the relocation flag from the created package, else it would overwrite previous installations. Since the workaround is scriptable, we could live with that. Now it turns out that Snow Leopard does relocate the package again, overwriting previous installations in the Trashcan and other arbitrary places. This is not what I want! Removing 'IFPkgPathMappings' from the finished package does not help anymore, neither does stripping '<mod>relocatable</mod>' nor setting 'relocatable="false"'. For Leopard, it also helped to set a unique 'Package Identifier' (we did this by adding the version number, i.e. com.company.programXXX.pkg), which does not resolve the issue for Snow Leopard. My last hope was setting a unique bundle name in the program's Info.plist, which leads to a unique 'bundle id' in distribution.dist: distribution.dist: <relocate search-id="pkmktoken2"> distribution.dist: <bundle id="com.company.programXXX"/> distribution.dist: </relocate> which did not help either. This is plain madness by now! Or am I misunderstanding something? Please, please provide some insight, or finally fix PackageMaker. Cheers, Mario Emmenlauer Hey Rick, Rick Cochran wrote: Here's what works for me: It works perfectly! Thanks a lot! BTW: Removing IFPkgPathMappings was sufficient, IFPkgRelocatedPath does not appear in my package. Do you know if it is still needed with mpkg from PackageMaker 3.0.3? Best, Mario Emmenlauer -Rick Hi Bill, I'm referencing an old message here, where you adress my exact problem: I would very much like to get my hands on this specific email, however I could not find it in the archives (maybe it was on a different list? You post too frequent to be sure:-) ). My problem is that I generate the PackageMaker configuration auto- matically, and call PackageMaker with it. The relocatable flag is then *always* turned on, no matter what I specify in the xml. I tried PackageMaker versions 3.0.0 - 3.0.3 to no success. Can you tell me how to rip out the relocatable flag from either the xml before running PackageMaker, or from the final mpkg package? Best, -- Dipl. Inf. Mario Emmenlauer Cell: +49-(0)176-23463809 Bitplane AG Office: +41-(0)44-430-1106 Badenerstrasse 682 Fax: +41-(0)44-430-1101 CH-8048 Zürich mailto:mario * emmenlauer.de Zürich http://www.marssoft.de / http://www.xuvtools.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/lanceo%40mac.com ____________________________ Lance Ogletree lanceo(a)mac.com -- Dipl. Inf. Mario Emmenlauer Cell: +49-(0)176-23463809 Bitplane AG Office: +41-(0)44-430-1106 Badenerstrasse 682 Fax: +41-(0)44-430-1101 CH-8048 Zürich mailto:mario * emmenlauer.de Zürich http://www.marssoft.de / http://www.xuvtools.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Lance Ogletree wrote: What version of packagemaker are you using. The xcode 3.2 release for SnowLeopard installs a version 3.04. Does it behave in the same manner? Mario Emmenlauer wrote: sed -e '/<key>IFPkgPathMappings<\/key>/,/<\/dict>/d' -e '/<key>IFPkgRelocatedPath<\/key>/,/<string>.\/<\/string>/d' $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist > Info.plist.sed mv Info.plist.sed $(NAME).pkg/Contents/Info.plist Mario Emmenlauer wrote: Bill Coderre wrote: On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Adil Saleem wrote: Previously i was using Package Maker on Mac OS 10.4 without any problems. Now, for the first time, i have to use the Package Maker (ver 3.0.3) on Mac OS 10.5. I created a package that installs the application in /Applications/MyApp folder. On running the package, it creates the folder MyApp in /Applications folder, but the folder is empty. The application file does not get copied. Any idea why this is happening ? Very likely PackageMaker is turning on the relocation flag due to a longstanding bug. Relocation means that the Installer tries to find an existing copy of your app to update. Say, the one in the source folder that your package is built out of. About a month ago, I wrote a couple of emails explaining how to override this flag -- ripping it out of the appropriate places in the finished package. Mario _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/rcc2%40cornell.edu This email sent to rcc2(a)cornell.edu This email sent to lanceo(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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postinstall crash with "invalid argument" in Snow Leopard
by Glen Low 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi All Any other suggestions? Cheers, Glen Low --- pixelglow software | simply brilliant stuff www.pixelglow.com aim: pixglen twitter: pixelglow _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm responsible for the Graphviz installer (graphviz.org) which uses PackageMaker and has mostly worked fine on Leopard. However on Snow Leopard, the installer now crashes at the postinstall stage. Here is a partial capture of the crash log: Application Specific Information: *** NSTask: Task create for path '/tmp/PKInstallSandbox.7PAWOk/Scripts/ com.att.graphviz.cli.pkg.JpUSK2/postinstall' failed: 22, "Invalid argument". Terminating temporary process. *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff831fa742 ___NEW_PROCESS_COULD_NOT_BE_EXECD___ + 5 1 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff83130250 -[NSConcreteTask launchWithDictionary:] + 3506 2 com.apple.PackageKit 0x00007fff8143914e -[PKInstallTask run] + 370 As near as I can figure, the installer is trying to invoke the postinstall shell script but fails to do so. Subsequent to the failure I tried to sudo the postinstall script as given by the path and it runs successfully, so there doesn't seem anything wrong with the script on Snow Leopard. There seems to be a few reports of similar crashes on other FLOSS projects out on the 'net but no suggested fixes. The only thing that occurs to me is that the script isn't prefaced with a #!/bin/sh, and I'll test it from a NSTask invoke from a Cocoa app... perhaps SL is stricter about what it allows to execute. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Larger installer screen
by Iceberg-Dev 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=TpPnO5oayV6YGmAV8Vwot99mGpZtR/zsT3QPr3wF5wc=; b=uiSclwGEnt3sJT5HkCl3aZsLbWZaU041WY3v0dVlTzigDmfIZln49sKxZP49FtWL/N 4CYrN7xFSQrmoZyxYPhsxIpCWTvrle2JHHsdETwDYlqJqUTfDyze3vEwKry1g14/ghAO MgqgpUvzGJlkt4sE8ML1wgxLeE/ppG4QuKBDE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=nFvBMJrciCGPmxNauzzoyTeTkWRVooZuQc3J5ZVmwQ2n3NOB4nUyBnGUfwazbwBUh9 fFhVxFPvhLLOIEzNzbzY9wT8fPkM+XsesiHzRvRjrBDw24BBwN9dmUczI0aUCTjKc/v6 fWGODR13kaCSteL3yLhQ1+ntk9eJNVccTCil4= On Oct 1, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: Prior to 10.6, nothing can be done. Thanks, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coderre" <bc(a)apple.com> To: "Andrew Peckover" <apeckover(a)pgmusic.com> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Larger installer screen No, there isn't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Waiting for the next clarification explaining how time duration thing can be done. Let me clarify: There were improvements to this in 10.6: you can specify a time duration a script is expected to take. On Oct 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: I have another "cosmetic" type question - during installation, is there any way *not* to display the "Install time remaining". I have a script that takes a while. While it's running the script, it says "Install time remaining: 1 minute", but it actually takes alot longer than that... On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. The size calculations use receipts to decide, in interests of speed. Obviously, receipts often do not represent the actual state of the disk, so, alas, this calculation can easily be wrong. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Larger installer screen
by Bill Coderre 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Prior to 10.6, nothing can be done. Thanks, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coderre" <bc(a)apple.com> To: "Andrew Peckover" <apeckover(a)pgmusic.com> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Larger installer screen No, there isn't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/bc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Let me clarify: There were improvements to this in 10.6: you can specify a time duration a script is expected to take. On Oct 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: I have another "cosmetic" type question - during installation, is there any way *not* to display the "Install time remaining". I have a script that takes a while. While it's running the script, it says "Install time remaining: 1 minute", but it actually takes alot longer than that... On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. The size calculations use receipts to decide, in interests of speed. Obviously, receipts often do not represent the actual state of the disk, so, alas, this calculation can easily be wrong. This email sent to bc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Larger installer screen
by Bill Coderre 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com There were improvements to this in 10.6, but no. Sorry. Thanks, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coderre" <bc(a)apple.com> To: "Andrew Peckover" <apeckover(a)pgmusic.com> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Larger installer screen No, there isn't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/bc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Oct 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: I have another "cosmetic" type question - during installation, is there any way *not* to display the "Install time remaining". I have a script that takes a while. While it's running the script, it says "Install time remaining: 1 minute", but it actually takes alot longer than that... On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. The size calculations use receipts to decide, in interests of speed. Obviously, receipts often do not represent the actual state of the disk, so, alas, this calculation can easily be wrong. This email sent to bc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Larger installer screen
by Andrew Peckover 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks for the answers. Thanks, Andrew No, there isn't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have another "cosmetic" type question - during installation, is there any way *not* to display the "Install time remaining". I have a script that takes a while. While it's running the script, it says "Install time remaining: 1 minute", but it actually takes alot longer than that... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coderre" <bc(a)apple.com> To: "Andrew Peckover" <apeckover(a)pgmusic.com> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Larger installer screen On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. The size calculations use receipts to decide, in interests of speed. Obviously, receipts often do not represent the actual state of the disk, so, alas, this calculation can easily be wrong. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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