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Re: FXPlug2 looks nice
by Darrin Cardani 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > On 6/21/2011 8:41 PM, Colin McFadden wrote: >> Amid the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments… FXPlug2 looks pretty nice. Seems to address a number of requests that have been made over the years. Thanks Darrin et al! > > Unfortunately, with no way to expose custom parameters in a Motion rig, there is no way to do custom controls, such as those needed to open a preset browser or special user interface. > > Anyone know of any way around this? Instead of making a preset browser, what about the possibility of just making those presets into Final Cut Effects? That way they show up in the effect browser without the user even needing to apply them! And you can group them together using both groups and themes. As for the special user interface, see my previous post regarding OSCs. It may not be the best solution for every problem, but now that they work in Final Cut Pro X, it's much more appealing than it used to be. Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Custom parameters with kFxParameterFlag_CUSTOM_UI
by Darrin Cardani 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Currently it is not possible to publish or rig a custom UI parameter. There are some other options, depending on what you're trying to do. Since Onscreen Controls (OSCs) now work in FCPX, you could put the button in the canvas using on OSC. (I'm not saying that's great UI design - just that it could be done.) It may be possible or sensible (or not) to trigger opening your window another way, such as with a popup menu item, too. You say that your dialog has complex controls and the current frame. This sounds like it could be a good candidate for OSCs. Instead of having a dialog which shows the current frame, can you create a set of directly manipulable controls and overlay them on the footage? I don't mean putting sliders or checkboxes on the canvas, but can your controls be rethought so that they work like the new OSCs we added to many of the built-in filters? If you look at filters like Circle Blur, Droplet, Gradient Blur, etc., you'll see some of what we've done. Things that used to be sliders for widths are now rings or boxes that the user can just directly grab and change. Or it may just be better to only allow the complex interface to come up in Motion for power users and make several presets (possibly with some rigged/published parameters) for FCPX. In general, we'd like to encourage developers to make Final Cut Effects that accomplish a specific task rather than just publishing dozens of parameters from an FxPlug and exactly duplicating the functionality of the FxPlug in FCPX. Users have told us that they're overwhelmed by dozens of sliders and controls in the inspector and want more tightly focused tools that help them accomplish specific tasks. But obviously, not every plug-in will work this way. Darrin On Jun 26, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Vladimir Sergeev wrote: > Hello Darrin, > > I develop an effect FXPlug with a custom button among its > controls. The button opens a modal dialog with complex GUI > containing a set of controls and the current frame. Those > controls are used to analyze the frame and to modify several > custom parameters (created by addCustomParameterWithName with > the kFxParameterFlag_CUSTOM_UI flag enabled). The parameters > are visible/editable only in the dialog. > > This works well in FCP6/7 and in Motion5 (in Motion Projects). > > To make it work in FCP X, I need to somehow "publish" the custom > button to let user open the custom dialog and to adjust those > custom parameters based on the current frame from the FCP X project. > > Is this technically possible in the current version of FCP X? > If not, will such custom buttons and custom parameters be added later? > > What would be the next best way to provide the same functionality > directly to FCP X users (opening the FC Effect back in Motion5 will > likely not help, since the frame data is not provided)? > > Thank you, > Vladimir > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/dcardani%40apple.com > > This email sent to dcardani(a)apple.com -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FXPlug2 looks nice
by Paul Miller 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 Anyone know of any way around this? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… On 6/21/2011 8:41 PM, Colin McFadden wrote: Amid the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments… FXPlug2 looks pretty nice. Seems to address a number of requests that have been made over the years. Thanks Darrin et al! Unfortunately, with no way to expose custom parameters in a Motion rig, there is no way to do custom controls, such as those needed to open a preset browser or special user interface. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FCP X and Developer Relations
by Darrin Cardani 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Keep in mind that you can sell Mac apps through the app store and still sell them elsewhere, unlike iPhone apps. If we ever do add plug-ins to the app store, it will likely increase the number of customers your product is exposed to, but you don't have to make it your only online store. Darrin On Jun 26, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Christoph Vonrhein wrote: > 3 steps backwards and then another 5 step even further backwards... > > Sad! > > > On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Paul Miller <paul(a)fxtech.com> wrote: > >> On 6/22/2011 2:09 PM, Philip Hodgetts wrote: >>>>> One indication of the future, and the opportunities it might bring, is >>>>> that Larry Jordan's server was brought to its knees today because 1.2M >>>>> people wanted to download his FCP X training course. In the first three >>>>> hours. The price of the full course is $99. I like those numbers. >>> >>> Because it's not an app? >> >> Either are plug-ins, but there is speculation that at some point the App Store will be the only "official" way to install them as well. >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/chv%40chv-electronics.de >> >> This email sent to chv(a)chv-electronics.de > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/dcardani%40apple.com > > This email sent to dcardani(a)apple.com -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Protected Motion projects?
by Darrin Cardani 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com As you suspect, there is no way to protect a Motion 5 project. Please file a feature request and explain why you need this feature. I believe that we did discuss this sort of option at one point, but obviously, we never implemented it. My suggestion in the meantime would be to convert them to FxPlugs using Quartz Composer. It's a fairly quick, easy way to get going with FxPlugs. Darrin On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Patrick Sheffield wrote: > I know what you mean, Alex - Last night I rewrote one of my FxScript plugins as a Mo5 project - worked pretty well. Too bad there isn't a way to protect it. > > Apple - please, oh please, can't you write an FxScript interpreter as an FxPlug plugin? > > I've been migrating my plugins as I can, but not all of them work the same as they did in FxScript. > > Plus, it'd help you with the conversion of FCP projects... ;) > > please? > > Patrick Sheffield > Sheffield Softworks > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Alex Gollner wrote: > >> >> Dear list, >> >> Seeing as I'm starting all over after being an FxScript developer for a >> while, I'm starting my development for FCP X using Motion 5. >> >> FCP Classic allows protected versions of FxScript plug-ins. Is there an >> equivalent method of protecting my work (such as it is) when using Motion 5? >> It's not that I'm the most expert user yet, but it would be handy to keep >> some of my methods secret (once I get some worth protecting). >> >> >> >> Alex Gollner >> ............................................................................ >> >> >> Screenwriter, Zone 2-North West, London >> >> alex4d on twitter, facebook, .wordpress.com & .com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/psheffield%40earthlink.… >> >> This email sent to psheffield(a)earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/dcardani%40apple.com > > This email sent to dcardani(a)apple.com -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FCP X and FxPlugs
by Darrin Cardani 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

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Re: Custom parameters with kFxParameterFlag_CUSTOM_UI
by Peter T 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

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Codecs for FCPX
by devlist＠mac.com 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com How can new codecs be added to FCPX? Both for decoding and encoding. I guess the question might be, how can new codecs be added to AVFoundation, but I thought it worthwhile asking the question here. Thanks, Adam Hall _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Where can I find the FCE 4.0.1 update?
by Pierre Jasmin 26 Jun '11

26 Jun '11

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Re: FCP X and Developer Relations
by Christoph Vonrhein 26 Jun '11

26 Jun '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com 3 steps backwards and then another 5 step even further backwards... Sad! On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Paul Miller <paul(a)fxtech.com> wrote: > On 6/22/2011 2:09 PM, Philip Hodgetts wrote: >>>> One indication of the future, and the opportunities it might bring, is >>>> that Larry Jordan's server was brought to its knees today because 1.2M >>>> people wanted to download his FCP X training course. In the first three >>>> hours. The price of the full course is $99. I like those numbers. >> >> Because it's not an app? > > Either are plug-ins, but there is speculation that at some point the App Store will be the only "official" way to install them as well. > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/chv%40chv-electronics.de > > This email sent to chv(a)chv-electronics.de _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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