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Re: [OT] DeveloperTools Vs Xcode Tools VS X11
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Re: [OT] DeveloperTools Vs Xcode Tools VS X11


  • Subject: Re: [OT] DeveloperTools Vs Xcode Tools VS X11
  • From: Roger Howard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:25:40 -0800


On Feb 16, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Xandra Lee wrote:

TRULY dumb embarrassing questions:

I finally loaded Panther and am somewhat confused


Is Xcode Tools the Panther version of "Developer Tools"?

Yes, basically.

How does X11 fit into the picture.

X11 is installed separately. X11 is a requirement for running most windowed (GUI) unix/linux applications.


Which bits of any/all of these are most useful in AppleScripting?

I don't use any Macs that don't have both DevTools (Xcode) and X11 on them, so it's sometimes hard to remember what's missing in OSX if you don't have them. You certainly won't get AppleScriptStudio (part of Xcode). You won't get the tools to make packaged installers, encode/decode resource forks, the HFS-friendly version of cp, ditto, and so on. Some people find some of these tools useful for AppleScripting.


Oh, and you won't have gcc (c compiler) so you won't be able to compile C source... so you won't be able to download, compile, install many unix tools that are only available in source form.

Where would I find  the terminal commands which were missing from basic
installs (at least in Jaguar) like CPMac.

All those tools are still part of XCode.

I most definitely not a developer - but often find I need to install all
this stuff just to follow instructions in UNIX tutorials, and occasionally
just to run a couple basic things in terminal

I would definitely always install XCode if you're even a moderately geeky power user. Really, if you do any shell work at all, I'd consider it necessary, as the out of the box OSX doesn't come with everything that many unix tutorials will assume. DevTools/Xcode will fill in these blanks - especially gcc.


Lastly any links to above appreciated.
I already have Xcode Tools on CD, but assume the CD not totally up to date.
(I kept going in circles on Apples Website which would offer to sell me a
CD, but mention I could download it for free - but no download link to be
found??)

Go to http://connect.apple.com

Sign up for a free developer account. Download the latest XCode.

-R

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