Re: Bindings Book !!!!!
Re: Bindings Book !!!!!
- Subject: Re: Bindings Book !!!!!
- From: Vince Ackerman <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:29:40 -0800
Scott, mmalcolm,
I have read and tried to understand all of the examples that you guys
put together, and they help tremendously, but there is still a lot not
covered and I hate bothering people here with dumb questions.....
that's why I think a book on the subject would be great. When you're a
newbie, trying to learn Obj C as many lurkers here are, there's nothing
like have something broken down into it's simplest forms, through
example code like yours, to get an idea of how stuff works and the
concepts behind it.
For example, when binding to an array controller, the model key path
menu under values has a large number of choices. How do you know which
to use? What does each do ? There isn't much info on the differences
between arrangedObjects, selection, selectionIndexes, SelectionIndex,
etc. How do you use all the other binding menu choices for font's,
etc? Patterns? You could spend chapters on how all this stuff gets
hooked up, Key value Observer principles, manual bindings, over-riding
bindings, the list is long. Trust me, there are those of us out here in
the ether who don't get this stuff and would appreciate a lot more on
the subject. Seems like half the questions on this list lately are
related to bindings...
Seems like there's more than enough stuff for a book.
Of course, if I knew enough to write it, I wouldn't need it..... : )
Vince
On Jan 13, 2005, at 00:48, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Scott Stevenson wrote:
On Jan 11, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Vince Ackerman wrote:
Would one of you guys PLEASE write a book devoted to nothing else
but BINDINGS !!! I own every Cocoa programming book out there, and
with the exception of the great but limited examples in Aarons book,
there is little info on this ridiculously complicated subject. So
far, the time required to figure out how to hook things up using
bindings makes writing all the old glue code seem far simpler.
This book needs to be LONG and DETAILED, with lot's of examples....
written for newbies like me. I'd pay any price for a copy.
I've heard people have pretty good results with the tutorial I put
together:
http://cocoadevcentral.com/articles/000080.php
It doesn't cover everything, but it should help you tackle the
concepts enough so that you can look up most of the other stuff.
Also, a oft-mentioned but invaluable resource is mmalc's examples:
http://homepage.mac.com/mmalc/CocoaExamples/controllers.html
Cheers.
I'd also add, though:
<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/
CocoaBindings/CocoaBindings.html>
There really isn't a need, though, for a *long* book on the subject.
There's actually not a lot to the subject, conceptually, and the first
three articles above cover it all. If you're finding it "ridiculously
complicated" you're thinking too hard. Stop, step back, do something
else for a while, and when you come back to it look for something a
lot easier than you were first thinking of.
mmalc
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