Re: [Moderator] "RFC" -- Specialist lists (was Re: Bindings Book !!!!!)
Re: [Moderator] "RFC" -- Specialist lists (was Re: Bindings Book !!!!!)
- Subject: Re: [Moderator] "RFC" -- Specialist lists (was Re: Bindings Book !!!!!)
- From: Guy English <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:14 -0500
Hi Mmalc,
Not sure if you wanted only private feed back or not but I'll post
here anyway.
While bindings comes up a lot here I don't think it's a good idea
to give it it's own list. Many of the technologies and techniques
behind it are more widely applicable, see the recent question about
dependent keys in a data store for example. When people encounter odd
behavior and have no idea as to what the cause is they will have to
either cross-post or choose between the two lists. Besides all that
there are new things (one could imagine) coming in Tiger that is going
to make the bindings technology much more common in Cocoa apps. (mind
the spilled beans, please) And, finally, I'll end up filtering both
mailing lists into the same mailbox anyway. :)
I do think that more visible documentation would be nice. Scotts
example is well done and your page is great. But ... a single source
for all this stuff would be nice. I *still* can't find a listing of
all the operators I can use. "@count", etc. And I *know* I've seen it
somewhere. On the topic of a bindings book I think it's kind of
pointless. Bindings don't make much sense by themselves - they need to
be taken in context with the rest of Cocoa and the Objective-C object
model. I think people would actually have an easier time if the dug
around the runtime headers and grokked what kind of magic was going
on. It's really not all that fancy once you know how it works.
All that said when the Panther seeds started coming I had a hard
time coming to grips with bindings. The terminology if foreign and IB
interface incongruous with the rest of the app. I think they're peachy
now though. :)
Take care,
Guy
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:26:27 -0800, mmalcolm crawford
<email@hidden> wrote:
> My apologies for sending this twice. I realised first time I forgot to
> send it as a new message, so some may have overlooked it if they
> weren't interested in the thread (which would probably skew the
> sample...!).
>
> On Jan 13, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Farmer wrote:
> > I don't know about a book, but how about creating a cocoa-bindings
> > list? They do seem to account for at least 1/2 of the traffic here....
> >
> I would be interested in other list members' views on this.
>
> **** This meta-discussion isn't something that's really suitable for
> the list per se.
> Please reply off-list, and I will summarise. ****
>
> Note that even if there were 100% agreement, there is no guarantee
> that we would be able to set up another list.
>
> mmalc
>
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