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Re: SearchKit and Spotlight
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Re: SearchKit and Spotlight


  • Subject: Re: SearchKit and Spotlight
  • From: Vince DeMarco <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:13:07 -0700


On May 3, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Ondra Cada wrote:

Vince,

since you seem to be the one who does understand Spotlight excellently, may I please ask you whether there is any chance to integrate a language-based stemmer into it?


I talked to the other people on my team about your issue.

there are several problems

1) we are only doing a prefix search for text with the search kit.
2) you can assign your own stemmer if you use the search kit directly, but none of this is exposed to the user


we really need some sort of plugin etc, to allow you do all of this.

But the answer for now unfortunately is that you can't do what you want.

We have the same problem with German (which is a tier 1 language)

Vince



happens anybody know whether at all--and if so, how--is it possible to use a stemmer with the Spotlight full-text indexing machine to extend the search for flektive languages?

Some background in case I do not use the proper terminology: there are languages (like mine) which use flexion -- one and the same word can take different forms in different circumstances. English has its "-s" for plural and verbs, but in, say, Czech, it is *much* more often: actually, nearly each word can occur in a number of forms. For example, "matka" -- a Czech for "mother" -- can be written in different places as "matek", "matkou", "matky", and more.

There is a language module named stemmer, which for each word finds its stem -- its very basic form. Therefore, it comes *extremely* handy with a full-text search system if it is possible to index stems instead of the forms which actually occurs in the text. For example, two Czech documents, the former of which contains only a word "matek" and the latter only a word "matkou", should be *both* kept in the Spotlight index with their common stem "matka", and *not* one for "matek", and the other for "matkou".

Searching the Spotlight API though I haven't been able to find a way to do this (short of the practically impossible task of replacing all the standard indexing plugins for RTFs, HTMLs, DOCs, .... with my own ones which would replace words by stems).

Is there a way to do this? I'd be quite grateful for any insight,


Thank you *very* much, --- Ondra Čada OCSoftware: email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz private email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz/oc




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References: 
 >SearchKit and Spotlight (From: Anton Leuski <email@hidden>)
 >Re: SearchKit and Spotlight (From: Vince DeMarco <email@hidden>)
 >Re: SearchKit and Spotlight (From: Ondra Cada <email@hidden>)

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