Re: Should a scroller be visible or not?
Re: Should a scroller be visible or not?
- Subject: Re: Should a scroller be visible or not?
- From: Robert Walker <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:31:02 -0500
Stephane,
Although, I think you are right that this seems to be left up to the
application developer's preference, I'll add in my two cents.
In your "Case 1" one thing I notice that that the mail preview window
is part of a split view and like Mike stated it is generally expected
to have overflowing content. When composing new mail the message
area is not part of a split view so makes more sense to use the
automatically hiding scrollers.
In "Case 2" Mike's idea fully applies.
In "Case 3" Notice that in Xcode the top of the scroller area
contains additional buttons that you would not want to ever hide. So
always showing the scroller makes sense.
In "Case 4" the accounts and signatures lists act more like tree
views with no children and have similar usage as Finder's left view
so behaves similarly. In the case of the rules list it acts more
like a true table view and having scrollers shown seems natural.
On Oct 30, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Mike Abdullah wrote:
My understanding of the rules (if you can call it that) is that you
should generally avoid using the "automatically hide…" option. It
should only be used in circumstances where the need for the
scrollbar to be visible is pretty rare.
Of course, this is just my interpretation, and Apple seems to break
this fairly often!
Mike.
On 30 Oct 2006, at 18:35, Stephane wrote:
Maybe this question was more related to the hi mailing list but
since the list committed suicide, it might be worth looking for an
answer on the Cocoa list since this is a Cocoa feature.
In Interface Builder, with the latest releases of the OS, one can
"Automatically hide scrollers".
Question: is there any official recommendation on when this
feature should be used?
The current situation doesn't seem to be very clear to Apple itself.
Case 1:
While writing this e-mail in Mail, the text editor hides the
vertical scroller but if I look at some short e-mails I received,
the scroller is visible whereas it could be hidden.
Case 2:
In the Finder Icon mode, scrollers are hidden if possible. In the
list mode, they are not.
Case 3:
In the Finder left view, scrollers are hidden if possible. In
Xcode left list, scrollers are always visible.
Case 4:
In Apple Mail, Accounts list, signatures list -> no scrollers
In Apple Mail, Rules list -> scrollers
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