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Re: Anybody using Eiffel-Cocoa?
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Re: Anybody using Eiffel-Cocoa?


  • Subject: Re: Anybody using Eiffel-Cocoa?
  • From: Ian Joyner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:23:20 +1100

Hi Lachlan,

I very much doubt that there is anything serious going on with Eiffel and Cocoa. I did build a very large EiffelCocoa bridge in 2001 the wrong way (well it was right at the time, let's say the old way). You can download it from http://www.maceiffel.com. EiffelSoft is also making some progress with their EiffelStudio, but not really in a Cocoa bridge (in fact they were doing Carbon a while ago). I also built garbage collection on top of Objective-C so that the Eiffel garbage collector managed the Cocoa objects, but this would also change with Objective-C 2.0 most likely.

I have not had a great deal of interest lately, so have not expended the resources, but I probably will get it going on Leopard and Xcode 3 sometime.

The way to do EiffelCocoa now would be using the new Python and Ruby bridge technology. I think Eiffel would still be a good addition to the OS X programming arsenal, filling in the void between low-level C programming (although Objective-C is the nicest flavour of C I have ever seen, but not really cross platform) and high-level (say Ruby) programming. Eiffel is better for developing cross-platform applications, but is compiled and generates C-standard optimized code, while in many ways being like Ruby, but is compile-time and type checked (in a non-patronizing "how can I get in your way" manner).

HTH and I hope I am not too sketchy and obscure. (Whereabouts in Australia are you?)

Ian Joyner
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On 20/01/2008, at 3:34 PM, Lachlan Cotter wrote:

Hi,



The Eiffel language seems to offer some powerful features: multiple inheritance, design by contract etc. and Cocoa bindings are available. Unfortunately, the Mac resources for Eiffel seem pretty sketchy and obscure.

I just wanted to find out if anyone using Eiffel to do serious Cocoa development, or know of any community or resources for Cocoa-Eiffel development?




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