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Re: NSWindowController retain counts, chapter 2
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Re: NSWindowController retain counts, chapter 2


  • Subject: Re: NSWindowController retain counts, chapter 2
  • From: James Walker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:56:59 -0700

Graham Cox wrote:

I can accept that looking at retain counts may just be confusing me, but "just following the rules" hasn't sufficed.

Well, what is it in "the rules" that you are not understanding?


I didn't say I didn't understand the rules. Do you think it's inconceivable that there might be bugs in the OS when you start mixing Cocoa and Carbon?


How do you know the window isn't being deallocated? Examining retain counts is not going to tell you whether it is or not. The only way would be to subclass it and log the -dealloc method.

That's exactly what I did. The dealloc method was not getting called before I added the workaround. Well, the initial symptom was that I got an access violation because a custom view was asked to draw after the window had been closed and the window controller had been destroyed. In the course of debugging that, I subclassed the window.


I'd suggest it would be more fruitful to chase down the actual bug rather than one that appears to be related but might be just a red herring.

If a view is being asked to draw but its window has gone away, then something's very, very off somewhere. Normally views are drawn by their windows, so how can such a situation arise? If you can answer that question you've probably found the problem. Is some other object retaining the view? Why? Are you drawing outside the usual update event cycle mechanism? Why?

When I said "the window has gone away", I spoke imprecisely. I meant the window had been closed. But, as I said, it had not been deallocated.


No, no other object retains the view.  No, I don't draw in any unusual way.

--
  James W. Walker, Innoventive Software LLC
  <http://www.frameforge3d.com/>
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