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Re: Color Calibration Adjustments
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Re: Color Calibration Adjustments


  • Subject: Re: Color Calibration Adjustments
  • From: Terence Wyse <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:06:25 -0500

Why don't you just profile the results after it's pressed into the material? I made some profiles for a sports photography company that was taking shots of little-leaguers and turning them into t-shirts, hats, mouse pads, etc. When I did this a few years ago, the results were extremely good as I recall, certainly better than anything they were doing with manual edits in Photoshop.

It's best done with something like a Spectrolino/Spectroscan where the material stays stationary and the device can tolerate some thickness (not sure an Eye-One iO would work for this).

Regards,
Terry Wyse


On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:32 PM, William Carr wrote:



Thanks for the reply.

I realize I should have included some background information.

This is a thermal Dye sublimation process. The toner is specially made to sublimate at 400 degrees fahrenheit and therefore transfer to anything containing polyester type molecules.

The downside is that it's not natural color. Print Red, Green And Blue, and even if it looks like the screen colors, once you press it you won't get quite what you wanted.

So that's what the .cmm profile is for. It adjusts the color profile either in your software or in your operating system so as to compensate for that effect. Thus the printed colors will look wrong, but be correct once pressed.

When used with a Mac, the supplied color profile is not quite right, as I mentioned. I did track down the original creator of the profile. He said he didn't have a Mac to try to refine the profile with. He agreed to call on a friend who uses Macs and look into it, but no response, and that was last Fall.

I obviously don't speak .cmm, but I was hoping that someone with a color meter could check the printouts and tell me how much to tweak the Adobe Photoshop settings to approximate the correction.

William Carr

William,

We have an OKI C5200ne LED printer.

OK. Nothing fancy, a plain office printer.

I learned that it's not quite straightforward to print from Windows
XP: but the instructions said you could print directly to a specific
printer by loading the drivers in both OS's.
The User Guide states, on page 119, that the XP printer driver and Color
Swatch Utility only support RGB. So don't bother sending CMYK documents
directly to this device. That's just asking for trouble. According to page
120, you can print using the ICC profiles supplied by Oki or use Oki Color
Matching. But you're basically out of luck because there is no way to
disable color management in this printer at all. So that you could hope for
is the supplied ICC profile and the Manual Color method.


If I were you, I'd stick to sending sRGB documents only.

Under the Color tab of the print settings, select Manual Color, then
Natural, under Color Setting. Then, in the "monitor" drop-down menu, select
sRGB, which, if we are to believe the documentation at the bottom of page
122, would result in relative colorimetric rendering print. Pretty much what
you'd hope for.


I would be happy to meet with a color consultant, but I don't know of
any in my area.


I was kind of hoping I could print off identical reference charts in
OS X and XP and mail them to a consultant who could run a color scan
on them.

The User Guide did not mention how to print from the Mac so I could not
comment on the Mac side of printing to the 5200.


My suggestion, William, is to not hire a consultant. With this kind of
printer, either from OSX or XP, there isn't much anyone is going to be able
do over and beyond the limited color processing capabilities of the driver.
I'd suggest you'd stick to sRGB and experiment with various substrates until
you find something you like.


Best / Roger Breton

William Carr
SW Michigan



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