• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Re: StartupItems
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: StartupItems


  • Subject: Re: StartupItems
  • From: email@hidden (Peter Seebach)
  • Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 03:05:45 -0500

In message <email@hidden>, Dave Zarzycki writ
es:
>We only expect what our customers (including system administrators)
>expect: Robust, easy to use and flexible software. I also have no
>doubt that our customers want to see daemons be more resilient to the
>real world, which will, in the end require the use of IPC.

Hmm.

This leaves us with two of launchd's goals in conflict; one is that apps
shouldn't have to contain extra code to handle the way they're launched,
the other is that they should robustly handle services which aren't up yet
but may be later.

There are at least some apps where it's entirely unclear how to make the app
cleanly check for the resources it needs, and where doing so requires
substantial extra work on the program -- and not all of these are programs
that we can conveniently modify to make them more convenient to launchd.

I guess, insofar as launchd is requiring me to rewrite code that's working
fine elsewhere, and add apple-specific startup magic, it's not a feature.  It
may be that this inconvenience is worth it for the other benefits, but to
deny that it is an extra workload and an extra inconvenience is implausible.

-s
 _______________________________________________
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
Darwin-dev mailing list      (email@hidden)
Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:

This email sent to email@hidden

  • Follow-Ups:
    • Re: StartupItems
      • From: Peter Bierman <email@hidden>
References: 
 >Re: StartupItems (From: Dave Zarzycki <email@hidden>)

  • Prev by Date: Re: StartupItems
  • Next by Date: Re: OpenDirectory: creating a LocalCachedUser?
  • Previous by thread: Re: StartupItems
  • Next by thread: Re: StartupItems
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread