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Re: StartupItems


  • Subject: Re: StartupItems
  • From: Michael Bartosh <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 00:00:58 +0200


On May 22, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Van Vechten wrote:

I'd be surprised if there is not a platform specific line of code in your program. You can wrap your launchd support in #ifdef __LAUNCHD__ or something equivalent. It's overstating the problem to say that you can't have a unified code base. Adding Launchd support is a relatively small amount of code, I know from experience. I think your sysadmins (customers) will ultimately be pleasantly surprised by this investment. Your server can be automatically kept alive. This and other servers can be uniformly launched, stopped, and queried via launchctl or programmatically.

That's fine. But what about the poor, dumb sysadmin who -can't write code-. These guys are not developers. Most sysadmins aren't. They take code developed by other people and deploy it themselves. And they need consistent ordering and dependencies that they can impose on that code.


You (Kevin) seem to acknowledge this when someone brings it up. But the messaging from Apple seems to be 'use launchd, it's the wave of the future!'

not

'You might want to use launchd eventually, it has some cool features, but will create headaches for you in the short run'.

When the latter is far more accurate.

You're right. Launchd is cool. It does some very cool things. 90% of the time those things are not accessible without dependency checking various systems require.

I mean, at least add something to launchd.plist that can talk to configd.. wait for specific configd states, like configd's kicker does. That alone would make launchd -a lot- more useful.

-mb
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