Re: Starting out
Re: Starting out
- Subject: Re: Starting out
- From: jtocci <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:16:10 -0500
I can give you my experience, perhaps it'll help.
I've been flirting with WebObjects for two years now. I took the first
class at Apple when I was only interested in Java Client. Quite a waste
of time for me with that mindset. By then I had several books and the
online docs printed out and it was all pretty much over my head. Took
not one, but two pricey Java classes at a local university and
learned...
nothing I didn't already know, and nothing that applied to WebObjects
directly.
My early experiences with WebObjects were tainted by a very buggy
Assistant and I didn't know about clean in Project Builder, that
would've likely been a great help.
Fast forward to a month ago. I got Xcode installed, downloaded the
WebObjects trial and got to work. I have WebObjects Professional,
WebObjects Web Application Construction Kit, my Apple manual from the
class I took, WebObjects Developers Guide and several of the online
docs printed beside me when I work. All have been little help but I do
use them. A while ago I bought the Visual Quickpro Guide for WebObjects
and this time I've been following that as my learning aid. It has short
examples that I can do out of order (much more than most books) and
I've got along well with it. I learned a lot of vocabulary from it as
well.
If I could only have one... I'd be up a creek without a paddle. But
that's just me.
Here's some gotchas:
One of the really annoying things I had to figure out was avoiding
creating a session. I got rid of my forms and still got a session when
I clicked a WOActive image. WOHyperlinks were no problem, but I wanted
to click on an image. Then I saw in either Dev. Guide or Prof. that you
can put an image in a WOHyperlink. DOH!
Early experiences with using PostgreSQL with WebObjects were
excruciating. Don't quote your columns. This may be fixed in current
versions, I wouldn't know. I've never used any of the toy databases so
can't help you there.
The Assistant is still very buggy. Mine freezes when trying to reorder
fields on a page. I've been removing the columns and adding them in the
order I want them. Apple, could we have an Assistant that doesn't bite
please?
Not to sound pessimistic. Things have really been cooking since the
last five times I tried to get into WebObjects. Many times I've doubted
my coding abilities. If I didn't code every day at work I wouldn't have
had the confidence to try again, heck, by now I'd be a carpenter. And
at the rate I'm going I'll have a very well advanced website going in a
month or so. For some reason, this time, all the problems so far have
been solvable.
Justin Tocci
Fort Wayne, IN
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