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Re: Good news: Cocoa/EOF on Tiger...
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  • Subject: Re: Good news: Cocoa/EOF on Tiger...
  • From: Ricardo Strausz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:14:20 -0500

Hola Florijan!

On Jun 4, 2005, at 6:34 AM, email@hidden wrote:

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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:31:37 +0200
From: Florijan Stamenkovic <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Good news: Cocoa/EOF on Tiger...
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On Jun 03, 2005, at 21:10, Ricardo Strausz wrote:


No really an ease example...
but for a (bit "downdated") tutorial you can take a look to:
http://wodev.spearway.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WODev.woa/wa/Main?
wikiPage=CocoaEOApplication



I'm interested in CEO and read the article. One thing I found very
interesting:

"Even though the technology is not yet supported by Apple, it had been
around since NeXT was independent."


Does the "yet" in the article mean something like: it will/should be...
Because as I saw it, JavaBridge is a "legacy" tech according to Apple,
and we have CoreData now. So, I keep CEO as an option, but as it is not
supported and JB being just a legacy, I didn't get my hopes up.

I am not sure, of course, but what I think is that Core Data will support other kinds of persistence; in particular, I think that it is just a mater of time to Core Data to support RDB via some kind of adaptor... may be Oracle or Sybase are already working in one.


So, EOF will be part of Cocoa, but with other name and in Objective- C. If you noticed, Cocoa+Bindings works like EOInterface, Core Data like EOControl (+ EOModel and 3 adaptors) and Xcode 2 now incorporates a kind of EOModeler; we only need now to complete the EOAccess layer... if they have two fingers on top of their eyes, they should be working on that by now.

If your CEO app is well designed (uses MVC correctly) it should be VERY ease to incorporate such technology by the time it comes out.

With this approach in door, I do not think that Apple will officially support CEO... they had not since, in WO 5.0 many years ago, they decided to go "pure Java"; it is hard to think that they will change this policy unless in the very short, or the very long, term. Any how, supported or not, it is still the best approach these days to build Client/Server apps.

On the other hand, if they plan to keep around WO on OSX ---which I think they do--- they need to keep the Java Bridge in order to connect EOModeler with the DB; so, I do not see any reason to disappear CEO.

HIH
Dino


Anybody has any other info on it?

Flor



-- Ricardo Strausz email@hidden Business Applied C Objects 企業應用的C 對象 +5255 5437 8205


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