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Re: Newbie - books on WO5.3 would be good
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Re: Newbie - books on WO5.3 would be good


  • Subject: Re: Newbie - books on WO5.3 would be good
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:33:56 -0700

Hi Sam,


On Jun 8, 2005, at 12:23 AM, Sam Venning wrote:

I'm really excited by the Apple's announcement that WebObjects is now 'free' with Xcode 2.1. Some books on WebObjects 5.3 would be really good. Perhaps O'Reilly could come to the party. Of course I'll be reading through Apple's documentation however I'm a little disappointed there aren't many published books on WebObjects. Most books seem quite old (2-3 years old).


There were not any major functional changes in 5.3. For the most part it was the first steps in the new direction for WebObjects, a UI freshening for some tired old tools. The differences between 5.2.3 and 5.3 need a few pages, not a book. Fundamentally, it is the same environment and the same API.

There are two books that I would recommend. To get started, I'd pick up WebObjects 5 for Mac OS X: Visual QuickPro Guide
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/032111549X/104-8311873-2768767


Once you have gotten going a bit further, you will probably find my Practical WebObjects helpful (see sig for link). The publisher is offering a good discount to WWDC attendees. Look for me at the WebObjects sessions, I'll be handing them out. We're also doing a raffle for some signed copies, so get your business cards to me for the draw.


I'm probably just the kind of person Apple hopes will take up this new opportunity. I an experienced AMP (Apache, MySQL, PHP) developer - three years developing several small-medium sized AMP web application. I am familiar with the three-tier (Data, Logic, Presentation) paradigm - I use Pear templates to separate PHP and HTML. And I've done six months of Java at uni (can't say this bit was fun). The sessions on WebOjbects at WWDC have got me enthusiastic and fired up.

Go man, go!  :-)


Perhaps now that Apple has injected new life into WebObjects a publisher might put out an up-to-date book. A book that covers the interface changes in the latest release would be really good. I've submitted this suggestion to O'Reilly.

My feeling is that the interface changes are just beginning and anything published now will quickly become outdated. Keep in mind that what changes is less than 1% of you have to learn. All the existing documentation is still valid for the other 99%.


If anyone has tips on getting started with WebObjects would be most welcome (probably off-list unless you think it might benefit other newbies)

http://www.wodev.com
http://www.wocode.com
Search the list archives when you have a question
And, of course, ask us!

Chuck


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Practical WebObjects - a book for intermediate WebObjects developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects, or those who are trying to solve specific application development problems.
http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects




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