Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
- Subject: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
- From: Anjo Krank <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:24:42 +0200
Well said.
And first and foremost, make sure what it is that you *actually* want
to do. "Doing Ajax" just says nothing. Do you want some special
widget? Call server side code? What for and why will that make your
app better? Because if you haven't made sure that you know what you
want is a sure recipe for wasted time, ours and yours.
Cheers, Anjo
Am 19.05.2006 um 16:06 schrieb Mike Schrag:
As far as convincing you that it's not true that WO clashes with
Ajax and that it doesn't make sense, obviously the Wonder Ajax
frameworks essentially demonstrate the counterexample. It's both
possible (clashless?) and DOES make sense :)
However, it is true that making Ajax behave in the way WO users
have become accustomed is not necessarily simple. Getting drag-and-
drop to "just work" with object bindings, etc, makes for some
slightly funky code, but the end result is really cool. I suspect
if you look at the code INSIDE of Ruby of Rails for making Ajax
integration work, it's much the same. The vast majority of users
just use the end product, they're not writing the rails framework.
Because WO's Ajax support is fairly new, you're sort of at the
"writing the Rails framework" level at the moment.
As Jean-François mentioned, using DirectActions will give you the
quickest route to success for something like the Hello World
example. The tighter the integration, the trickier the code will
become. The source to Ajax framework is in Wonder, though, and it
provides all the basic tools to create just about anything these
example do, it's just varying levels of cleverness to make them
nice depending on how complicated the desired behavior is.
ms
On May 19, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
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Von: "Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2" <email@hidden>
Datum: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:40:48 +0200
An: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
Hi Mike,
I'm primarily interested in general widgets and form widgets.
I'm tired of trying to bring together WO and Dojo, so wanna give
up. I think
WebObjects clashes with AJAX. It doesn't make sense to use AJAX with
WebObjects.
If anybody wants to convince me of the opposite, i'm willing ...
Greetings,
Ahmet
Von: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
Datum: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:32:04 +0200
An: "Tokalak, Ahmet, D-IT2" <email@hidden>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
Incidentally, which features of Dojo are you specifically
interested in?
On May 19, 2006, at 4:48 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
Hi Mike,
If you have worked with Dojo can you tell how you integrated it in
WO? (I'm
not a WO expert ;))
Currently i'm looking in project wonder and wondering how to
integrate the
Dojo toolkit.
The way the Wonder Ajax.Framework is designed is using the JSON-RPC
library.
With this design it not possible to integrate the Dojo toolkit as
it is
intended usage. I have to adapt it to my needs (i.e. Dojo Toolkit
widgets
for the view and JSON_RPC for server communication), but i don't
like it.
Does it exists a better approach?
Cheers,
Ahmet
Von: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
Datum: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:53:58 +0200
An: WebObjects Development <email@hidden>
Betreff: Re: AJAX WebObjects Integration
I have been looking at Dojo and actually have a couple Dojo things
wrapped (the rich text component, for instance) in my local
Ajax.framework to try them out. I have not been as impressed with
Dojo when I compare its cross-browser support to, say,
Scriptaculous,
but they have a HUGE set of libraries available. That alone
may make
it compelling enough to support.
ms
On May 18, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tokalak, Ahmet. D-IT2 wrote:
Hi,
I want integrate AJAX in my WO apps, but i'm facing big problems.
The
biggest problems i see is the stucture of a WO application.
Has anybody gained experience of WO-AJAX integration ? (I wanna
work with
the DOJO Toolkit, but the tookit is not important)
Cheers
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