Re: It's been months yet no new announcements?!
Re: It's been months yet no new announcements?!
- Subject: Re: It's been months yet no new announcements?!
- From: "Jay Rush" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:06:33 -0500
Thanks for the quick response. I have just a couple of questions more, please.
Is the dmg of Webobjects actually on the installation disc of OSX? I haven't run across an actual separate package looking through the ADC.
Also, from what I understood about the open source initiatives, Xcode would still support the development of WebObjects and that Xcode 2.4 might also be updated to work better with WO 5.4, especially if they move closer to a fully J2EE-compliant framework (according to the Apple website, WO works with Most J2EE servers).
J2EE is something that I am particularly interested in since I have some background in J2SE development. I just want to take that to the next level and have found that WO is the best way to go in database applications. If most of the WO code stays in-house (and private), then WO might wither. I hope that enough of the framework is made freely available so that development (and deployment) across multiple platforms will be possible and its user base will increase.
Ultimately, from what you have said, it is probably best that I find a local developer (from whom I can get the framework itself) or purchase a new Mac. Regardless, the next version of WO may change the framework, and I may wait for my own foray into WO development until that time.
Thanks once again.
Jay Rush
On 10/16/06, Chuck Hill <email@hidden> wrote:
Hi Jay,
On Oct 16, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Jay Rush wrote:
> I'm interested in developing a few test WO applications, just for
> learning purposes. I don't have a Mac right now (sold my iBook to a
> good friend who needed a computer and didn't have a lot of money to
> invest),
Now that is the definition of friend!
> but I have researched some and found that the Eclipse IDE is
> worthwhile for Windows WO development.
And also, I will note, worthwhile for OS X development as well.
> I have the Eclipse software installed and the WOLips add-on for WO
> development, but have realized that it actually requires the WO
> framework to be installed.
Yes, it does.
> Is there anywhere that I can get the framework for a Windows
> development box. I've seen references to downloading a trial
> version of WO for Windows 2000 once upon a time, but haven't found
> anything quite like that in ADC. I also noticed that the 5.2
> version of WO is still available for purchase on the Apple store,
> but I just wanted to try it out and not invest in something that
> will likely be obsolete with the next release (hopefully, open
> source) of WO.
There is no installer for platforms other than OS X. You will need a
Mac, Pacifist, and the dmg of WebObjects. You then extract the
needed pieces and move them to Windows. This will not give you the
dev tools, but WOLips has replacements. If you ask on the WOLips
list, someone might have instructions.
You will also need to compile the CGI and mod_webobjects adaptors
for Windows. I can give you Win2K versions if you want.
> I'm waiting for the next release of OSX to get another Mac, but
> would like to do some development and learning first. Then once I
> have my new Mac (probably a MacBook), I can start using the next
> version of XCode.
I would not. Apple is deprecating their Xcode and tool support in
favor of WOLips.
> I'm also wondering if the open source initiatives that were
> mentioned include releasing the WO framework into the public domain
> for free distribution.
I really rather doubt that will ever happen, if for no reason other
than it would expose a lot of Apple's IP.
Chuck
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problems.
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