Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled
Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled
- Subject: Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:49:24 -0700
Hi Andrew,
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:38 PM, email@hidden wrote:
I'm reading between the lines on this mailing list over and over
amongst the whispers and murmours and am still not quite sure what
is going to happen with the WO toolset. I can appreciate that EOM
and WOB are going to get the axe, although there is no clear
indication of *when* they are going to go. Is it going to happen
at 5.3.?/5.4/5.5/...?
I have no idea when this will happen.
Yesterday Chuck said in a post...
Apple is deprecating their Xcode and tool support in favor of WOLips.
My interpretation, not their words.
...but in one of Apple's open emails to this list they say...
...Making WO work well with ANT and the most popular IDEs,
including Xcode and Eclipse
Which mentions X-Code and Eclipse. Is it the case that they will
be advocating wolips's ANT tasks as the only viable build process
for WO?
Yes, that is my interpretation of that statement. They may provide
their own tasks, but that would seem to be a waste of effort for them.
What about SSD or do we have to arrange that ourselves open-
source style?
I don't use it, but I was under the impression that WOProject (the
Ant part of WOLips) did this already.
Is it the intention of Apple that eclipse will be the only viable
platform for WO development?
I was not aware that Xcode ever was a viable platform for WO
development. Grin.
I expect that Xcode will always be able to build WO apps. But once
the other tools go away, you would need to use Eclipse and WOLips to
edit models, components, etc. Well, that or emacs.
and want to encourage variety within the community...We will work
to assist the community...been working with several open source
projects. This will become public soon.
It's a really big ask to expect somebody to stop work for a week in
order to fly all the way from New Zealand to conference in the USA
every single year just on the off chance there is any meaningful/
new WO information imparted. I feel that claiming to be "assisting
the community" and then keeping the bulk of the community
(including some like me who do contribute articles and framework)
in the dark on timing and logistics of these obviously quite
massive changes is an extraordinary contradiction.
You are not the only one saying that. However, this mentality runs
very deep at Apple.
Chuck
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overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific
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