Re: WO(Re)petition
Re: WO(Re)petition
- Subject: Re: WO(Re)petition
- From: Stephane Guyot <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:17:24 +0200
Ian, David, Miguel ...
I can't agree with you.
My last client, is looking for WO replacement because of lack of
windows and linux support.
Ten years of WO development without roadmap, multi to mono platform
support, ....
Actually I'm just trying to convince my new client to use WO, we
develops on Mac and windows, we are using FLEX, ( opensource,
multiplatform ...),
but I can't them : now we just needs to drop server and buy Xserve :-)
I simply hate, J2EE , Spring, Struts, Hibernate .... I want to
continue with WO, but not at home in my job.
Stephane
PS : WebKit is open source and use by many companies, Nokia, Adobe
for AIR, it's not a good idea ?
I know many developpers that wil be back on the WO side, if Apple
opensource WO, but they are currently using uggly technology, just
for eating.
Le 3 oct. 07 à 02:51, Ian Joyner a écrit :
I agree – calling for open source is not thinking different, it's
thinking the same. This industry is too full of popular solutions
that don't really address the real problem. I think that's what
Steve means when he says think different, address the problem and
the need. I don't think open source will solve WO's problems, that
doesn't mean that I don't think it would be nice to be able to
browse through the code, but evaluate what the problems are and
then solve those problems. I think Pierre's group at Apple are
doing that.
Ian
On 03/10/2007, at 7:13 AM, David LeBer wrote:
On 2-Oct-07, at 5:04 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
Think different: please present any valid arguments to sustain
your request.
Think different: please request what you want through the
proper channels. People are trying to create a WO Community,
being the communication between WO users and Apple a goal. If you
want to help and to make your voice be heard, you should help
building the WO Community, instead of flooding the mail-list.
Think different: please THINK if open sourcing WO is what you
really want. Because what I want is Apple to actively develop it,
doing a good job that results in innovative features and QUALITY
work, and yes, documented. How many Web frameworks do you know
that are innovative, with a solid, very solid code base (with a
few bugs, naturally), and well documented... AND OPEN SOURCE?
Because I don't know any one.
Think different: open source WO clones/copies/alternatives (use
whatever pleases you) exist. Do you use them? No. Why? Because WO
is still the best. Did being open source helped? I don't think so.
Think different: if you REALLY need to look at the WO source,
you know you can.
Think different: again, stop flooding my mailbox. If you really
want to make your point, put together some decent arguments, talk
with the people who are working to build the WO Community, and
use them to get in touch with Apple.
I don't mean to be rude, but this is getting a little childish...
I was just about to click send on a message that said the same
thing...
OK, not the same thing, Miguel said it better :-)
;david
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