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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?
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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?


  • Subject: Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?
  • From: Lachlan Deck <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:45:54 +1100

On 25/11/2009, at 11:32 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:

>>>>
>>>> The community has arisen in response to Apple pulling back (e.g., Entity Modeler was written because of Apple's decision to pull the tools). You've got it backwards I'm afraid.
>>>
>>> Not really, IMHO, Apple is now recognizing the great contributions from the community, which might be better than their own. Eclipse/EM seemed an obvious progression; so why stand in the way?
>>
>> You're just not providing a true picture of history. Xcode was the predominant dev tools for WO until Apple dropped it... and then the masses looked for an alternative and got behind WOLips. Sure, the WOLips tools were around beforehand but were in no way in a ready state for the masses. That's all since changed...
>>
>> with regards,
>> --
>>
>> Lachlan Deck
>
> Talking about history; we have been using WebObjects since 1998.

Cool.

> The point is that Apple did not want to stand in the way of something better suited.

lol... because as a company they're just generous at heart when it comes to setting their technology free ;-)

> In their opinion, at that time, the WOLips tools WERE ready for the masses,

Now you've either got this from the horses mouth so to speak or are making it up. The former makes no sense as it is simply not true (Entity Modeler for exmaple was no where near ready ... as Mike worked hard on it *after* the announcement of Apple dropping theirs). Sure it was showing signs of being the way to go for the future ... that would be closer to making sense.

> as Apple had already been using them internally for a couple of years prior to that.

That little thing called the Java-bridge doing its disappearing act had some influence on their decision too... :-)

Look, I hope they do get around to releasing 5.5, 5.6 etc but there's no denying that there's some internal politics that's slowing things down considerably.

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck

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 >State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Ralph Scheuer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Anjo Krank <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Lachlan Deck <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Lachlan Deck <email@hidden>)
 >Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009? (From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists <email@hidden>)

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