Re: OT: Better setup for me? (was Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package)
Re: OT: Better setup for me? (was Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package)
- Subject: Re: OT: Better setup for me? (was Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package)
- From: magenta <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:46:53 -0800
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 05:35:43PM -0600, Randy Ford wrote:
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 01:31 PM, magenta wrote:
>
> > Okay, based on various responses, both personal and public, it sounds
> > like
> > the point of X11.app is somewhat different than I was assuming, and I
> > might
> > be better off switching to LinuxPPC and run MacOnLinux instead, but I
> > have
> > a few reservations about that.
>
> The view I expressed is strictly based on my observations. I haven't
> had any contact with Apple people outside of this forum. I do believe
> that Apple wants to please us as well as the non-X11 literate. I just
> think that, since we already have choices and there are fewer of us,
> they will first try to provide for the others. They can most quickly
> and easily provide for our needs by providing source code to integrate
> into other X servers and window managers.
>
> Besides, even without running quartz-wm, (or X11.app, for that matter,)
> we can still run an X11 environment to our liking. All we sacrifice is
> some consistency with native OS X apps. However, we can still run the
> OS X apps that we choose.
I guess it really depends on what Apple wants out of X11.app. Do they want
to make it easy for UNIX people to "port" their applications to Apple for
casual end-users, or do they want ot make it easy for UNIX people to use
the applications that they're used to? The views taken by most of the
poeple on this list seem to assume the former (what with all the "my
grandma wouldn't understand [foo]" arguments; but why would "my grandma" be
running xterm and GIMP and so on to begin with?).
> Keep in mind that X11.app/quartz-wm is still in beta. They will
> probably fix some of the bugs and add some features before it is
> released. There are leikely to be more releases with more features
> added later.
Well, yeah.
> > Sorry to have been a bother.
>
> I haven't seen you being a bother. This has been a valuable
> discussion. Besides, even if we are a minority, at least we can be a
> vocal one. <grin>
Doesn't that basically describe *all* Macintosh users? :)
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